Ew, blue cheese.
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I guess vegan cheese has improved a whole lot since I last tried it.
Now if only they could make a vegan hot dog that didn't taste god-awful...
Hot dogs and other sausages without meat will always be awful because the flavor and texture is what makes them work.
I am not a vegan or vegetarian. I absolutely love vegetarian and vegan dishes that are based on their ingredients doing their own thing.
I'm not convinced of that. At the end of the day, it's a collection of mostly proteins arranged in certain ways plus water and salt. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that something like that can be replicated.
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I had some vegan cheese I got from a food pantry, that shot was top tier. I think it was called vialife?
Best quesadillas ever
that beyond brauts are pretty good actually
I haven't had those, but I'm waiting for a plant-based product that tastes like a good Nathan's or Hebrew National.
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Tried some vegan "feta" type cheese for my salad, based on cocos oil, and it was pretty bad. It had a terrible stink and taste like overripe cheese, which is kinda the opposite of what you'd expect from this type. It also became incredibly smeary immediately when I tried to crumble it, so it only mimics the original consistency when it is untouched.
The only vegan products that I've tried and liked so far were oat milk, which is pretty much tasting like regular milk at this point (at least my brand), some vegan Schnitzel which tastes not quite but close enough like those premade regular ones you'd get at a grocery store, and some "cut chicken" type stuff which honestly was pretty great in taste and consistency and definitely something I get again if I want to throw some mixed veggie bag into the pan. Everything else I've tried ranged from "meh" to "eugh". But I'm sure it's just a matter of more R&D.
Some of the Beyond and Impossible stuff I've had has been okay, but I'm not sure if they're vegan.
I love using ground beef substitutes in meatloaf and shepards pie. Using ground flaxseed as a binding agent and coursely ground oats as breadcrumbs has made for some excellent dinner dates!
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So what is it called, so I can get some?
Edit: Climax Blue yes really
I mean, apparently it's that good, so....
Ugh, It's a little judgy and I actually like AI in some day-to-day search scenarios but instantly disappointed in the blue cheese company when this banner appeared across the top of their homepage. " Find out how AI is shaping the future of Food and how you can support the movement! " With links to join a mailing list.
Also, just an FYI, they aren't selling the cheese to consumers yet, it's only available in a handful of restaurants.
I'm not sure I get the mailing list part, but this is the type of task modern Machine Learning is actually great at (much better than they are at text or art generation). You have some huge open possibility space the humans can't possibly explore all of, and where false negatives aren't costly. You can use the model to narrow down the possibility space to something manageable for a human to review manually. Very similar to how its used in astrophysics, for example.
That is a specific day to day scenario that makes sense to me for AI - finding new combinations of flavors by following some machine learning recommendation, especially if the intended application is to use AI to discover better vegan cheeses
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The dairy and meat lobbies are something else. It’s like smoking in the fifties.
It’s well established that there are serious health concerns when you consume animal produce (not to mention environmental and animal welfare ones), yet the industry keeps pushing back on plant-based alternatives.
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Well now I want to try it lmao. Thanks for the publicity, dairy industry.