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Prosecutors from the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office accused Trump of violating the gag order numerous times since it went into effect.

The judge presiding over Donald Trump’s hush money case on Tuesday held the former president in criminal contempt over a series of posts on Truth Social that he said violated a gag order barring any attacks on jurors and witnesses.

Judge Juan Merchan ruled Trump in contempt for nine violations of his gag order, with a fine of $1,000 for each instance. The order prohibits the former president from "making or directing others to make public statements about known or reasonably foreseeable witnesses concerning their potential participation in the investigation or in this criminal proceeding," and "public statements about any prospective juror or any juror."

Merchan had indicated on April 23 that he was not impressed by the arguments from the defense, telling one of Trump's attorneys that he was “losing all credibility” when he suggested that Trump was exercising caution to comply with the gag order.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago (2 children)

$1000 fine per incident? Can Trump wipe his diapers with a thousand dollar bill before giving it to the court? When will this asshat have real accountability?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Even if they not going to jail him they should at least sequester him with no outside contact.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 6 months ago (1 children)

FOR REALS this time, if you do it AGAIN, ~~there will be consequences~~ we'll tell you to stop again!

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I know this is a popular thing to be angry about, but this time there was an actual fine. The consequences are being ratcheted up. The judge is just taking as much care as possible to make sure that all the "t"s are crossed and "i"s dotted along the way, otherwise he risks the whole trial being thrown out in the end. Look at some of the other high-profile "this rich guy's guilty as sin but got off anyway" cases, they often boil down to some screw-up that doesn't disprove the overall case but still invalidates the trial. Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby pop to mind.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

. The judge is just taking as much care as possible to make sure that all the "t"s are crossed and "i"s dotted along the way

Ive heard this for every single trial trump has faced. This strategy isnt doing shit but making sure trump is comfortable before facing no consequences yet again.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (4 children)

This is the first criminal trial. You haven't heard it in this regard before.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

A $9,000 fine is hardly a consequence for the rich.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago

Yes, but as I explained, the judge is proceeding by steps up the ladder of consequences. The next time Trump violates a gag order he can now say "I have demonstrated that fines are insufficient, and so I'm moving on to jail time."

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So he's going to jail right? Held in jail until his next trial date, like what normally happens to people held in contempt?

[–] [email protected] 73 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Next time, we totally mean it this time!

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Stop, or I'll say stop again!

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[–] [email protected] 185 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Put. Him. In. A. Holding. Cell.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Fill. The. Holding. Cell. With. Wasps.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wasps

make it "TVs tuned to MSNBC"

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Then. Set. It. All. On. Fire.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

In a hole preferably

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (2 children)

From what I have read, conditions of his release from the other trials include not committing ANY crime. Criminal contempt triggers this and Judge Chutkin is the most likely to jail him. Now...odds on that ACTUALLY happening...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

0.000000000% unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I think you dropped a 0.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's a 1 somewhere at the end of a nearly infinite list of zeroes.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

That's an interesting thought. It will never happen, of course, but if she decides he violated the terms of his release she could remand him to jail until trial. If that happens, then all of the work Trump has done to delay his other trials until after the election would end up costing him big time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

So $9K?

For the layman, that’s a lot, but for Trump?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I’m sure Trump doesn’t pay anyways. He’ll use the money donated to him by Cleatus the slack jawed yokel.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s the legal maximum fine for this, and there are still three other charges that will be discussed this week. It’s very much possible that Trump may see the inside of a jail cell, but that remains to be seen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

And even though it seems like a tiny slap on Trump's tiny wrist, it's still an escalation. So next time Trump flagrantly violates gag orders the judge can escalate more. If there's an appeal it'll be important to be able to show the judge didn't jump straight to the harshest penalties.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Let's be real, that's probably a lot for Trump right now, too. The man's broke.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

His stake in his "media" company is (nonsensically) still worth billions of dollars right now. He probably won't be able to cash all of that out if he wanted to, but he is definitely not broke.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Lol he's not paying. Republicans gave him unfettered access to their election campaign funds

Drain em Donny. Keep going.

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