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Maryam Alwan figured the worst was over after New York City police in riot gear arrested her and other protesters on the Columbia University campus, loaded them onto buses and held them in custody for hours.

But the next evening, the college junior received an email from the university. Alwan and other students were being suspended after their arrests at the “ Gaza Solidarity Encampment,” a tactic colleges across the country have deployed to calm growing campus protests against the Israel-Hamas war.

The students’ plight has become a central part of protests, with students and a growing number of faculty demanding their amnesty. At issue is whether universities and law enforcement will clear the charges and withhold other consequences, or whether the suspensions and legal records will follow students into their adult lives.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

The first amendment? Never heard of it.

Innocent until proven guilty? Pfffff, Arrest records are used to punish on the daily.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Based solely on the over-reactions of the authorities, I’m guessing these protests are threatening a lot of money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Imagine living in a country where the government says fear the other party and their insurrectionists but let them go free and instead arrest protesters. But at least Biden wiggled in some last minute toothless bill about transgender people while "slaying" his opponent with name calling.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lmao they thought suspending students for exercising their first amendment rights was going to calm things down? We have truly forgotten how to deal with protests in this country without resorting to authoritarianism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

To forget something you have to have known in the first place. The US has a very very long history of trying to smash protests with the law. All the way back to the whiskey rebellion and before.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Well the whole USofA as a nation is a violent protest in long form. Kinda hard to say they never knew the thing that started them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

To be fair the Whiskey rebellion was more of an armed insurrection than a protest. But yeah, point taken.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So listen, I'm not pro Hamas. Killing non settlers at a music festival is just terroristic murder and even killing random settlers is both counterproductive and terroristic even though most of them are very bad people. That said, this framing is ridiculous:

Some demonstrations have included hate speech, antisemitic threats or support for Hamas, the group that attacked Israel on Oct. 7, sparking a war in Gaza that has left more than 34,000 dead.

Blaming Hamas for Israel's slaughter is exactly the same as justifying Hamas's actions. That's very much a pro-genocide statement.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Spot on! Fuck Hamas and all the terroristic acts against Jews and innocent lives. But one should also be able to recognise the ongoing crimes and genocide of the right wing Israeli government. Do they really think this war will lead to the destruction of Hamas or antisemitism in the region? I bet we will se double the amount of antisemites/terrorists in the future and nothing will have changed. The west is losing its face and the region was never further away from peace. Hamas trapped the Israeli government into a war and the Israeli extremists were more than happy to use the opportunity for this genocide. Seems like nobody is honestly interested in peace and the victims will be the Palistinian people and some festival goers.

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