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META - where did the people go? (sopuli.xyz)
submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I noticed that for a week or so now the community has been much smaller tham it used to be. I'm seeing an almost 90% decrease in posts, comments, and votes. Did something get defederated or did a big community go down? Lemmy stats show that Lemmy average user count is still about the same.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if it's directly linked, but small instances are not getting easy entry to the lemmy fediverse. Let me explain succinctly.

I have a somewhat beefy PC with RAM and storage space, it only serves lemmy.mindoki.com over a 1Gb down, 700Mb up link.

When I surf the lemmyverse it should be quick as a nimble, right? Not sloggish like pouring molten asphalt, if any asphalt there is...

Trouble is that I'm the sole user, so if I don't run around everywhere things work quite badly if at all. Unread messages (you have 4 new messages!) takes 30 seconds to get for example or more. Since a 5-6 days internet cutoff (double unluck hardware side from my ISP) all servers my server exchanged with just laid me off and it feels like I'm blocked since then. I go to say artshare through my server, I get the posts but they all have only the base 1 up vote, few comments.

I'd love helping out more, but if you have to have hundreds of users for your server to just function, well, it just doesn't make sense to have a small server.

What's your thoughts?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

It's a valid point. You should probably repost this on [email protected] as it would be more visible

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've just had a look at the graphs that show federation activity. There is a technical problem that is causing sopuli.xyz, your instance, to receive data from lemmy.world slower than it needs to. Lemmy.world is where most comments and posts come from. This has been going on for over a week.

Contact your instance admin about it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

reported to meta. It looks like this is not the first time this kind of issues happen with between instances https://sopuli.xyz/post/9076347?scrollToComments=true

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: it seems i can't link it to meta since your post did not federate to dbzer0.com; it would be helpful if you put the links in your post for help with troubleshooting

happened 2 times on dbzer0.com too, with 2 different issues, one on lemmy.worlds side, the other on dbzer0; ~~i'll link both of them in your post in meta for reference~~

https://dbzer0.com/blog/post-mortem-the-massive-lemmy-world-lemmy-dbzer0-com-federation-delays/ https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/18235543

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, forwarded this post-mortem to my current meta question.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

@[email protected] did a great job with that post mortem and showed up a lot of places where federation could choke. Seems there is not much troubleshooting information easily available for lemmy admins, i hope it helps.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

On the left: this community viewed directly through lemmy.world instance. On the right: this community viewed through sopuli.xyz

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Commenting directly from here so you can see

Sopuli is currently 5 days behind LW: https://grafana.lem.rocks/d/cdfzs0dwal3pca/federation-health-time-behind?orgId=1&var-instance=lemmy.world&var-remote_instance=sopuli.xyz&var-remote_software=All&from=now-7d&to=now

Another reason to not centralize everything there

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I can't recall the exact details, but I've read from some other communities talk of there being some federation slowdowns between lemmy world and other instances, so maybe this is related?

...In fact, this comment in reply to you may serve as an example of the delays, as I responded only a few minutes after yours.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Where is there a good guide on how to navigate lemmy and how it all works? I’m new here

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You might look at this intro guide from one of Lemmee's admins, or this one from one of Lemmy World's admins. They give decent overviews, and you can set aside the site-specific stuff where relevant, e.g. Lemmee's image size limits.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Thank you so much!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

It certainly seems lemmy.world has grown too big for the software and/or their setup to handle. Which is problematic because users there wouldn’t really notice.