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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think it's definitely true that Americans get defensive when you criticize the US. I also think it's true that a huge reason for that, is because the only thing the internet seems to enjoy doing at the moment is complain about the US—no one likes to hear their country that they're living happily in trashed on constantly.

And I say that as someone who deeply enjoys complaining about the US

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

So I work with a lot of people from a variety of countries. Some of those countries have really bad governments. When we joke about each other's countries, it's about the governments. I remember this guy who used to work with me from the Philippines. It was near the beginning of lockdowns and just after Duterte was elected. He made fun of the shit Trump was saying and doing, and I got to joke that they had their own Trump(maybe worse) coming. Australian co-workers laugh along when we joke about their shit politicians.

What we don't do is joke about the people or the culture. That's shitty. All those people are just as much victims of their own circumstances as we all are of our own. But we're adults who work with each other every day and it's easy to remember that we're all real people. The internet however...

I haven't noticed Americans getting upset when people criticize shitty government policies or decisions. At least not from people who aren't boot-lickers from jump. The problem is when people make fun of American stereotypes. Americans are fat and loud and whatever. Like, if all you heard was people talking about Canadians being stuck up about needing things written in French or topped with poutine, it would probably get old, right? "Go cry at your Tim Horton's and take your polar bear for a walk." (okay, so I had to google Canadian stereotypes and it's a short list.)

I don't like America's gun culture either. And I hate when it comes up there's always someone who comes in and preaches the gospel of the 2nd amendment. It also doesn't feel great when people make that generalization about me. This thread is full of people saying Americans are dumb and racist. That's just shitty behavior that no one bats an eye at because it's normal to make those jokes. If I started making comments about like, French people smelling bad or (insert some other offensive thing. I don't keep track of bad stereotypes and I'm done googling it) then that would also be bad and it's a thing I think we should start calling out across the board.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It usually doesn't bother me unless it's something like this

American- criticizes something foreign

Every single reply to that comment- "School shootings!! Hahaha!! Dead kids!!! Hehehehe!!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Or when they extropolate from America the country being shit, to every individual American being shit for having the audacity to have been born here.

Most of us would also rather it wasn't like this, but our families, friends, and livelihoods are here, so generally speaking it's not practical to just up and leave. And our political system is to broken for us to really fix via voting

Trash on the country all you want, I'll join in with you - but don't blame the folks who are just trying to live the best we can in this fucked up country

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This recently

  • French people rude. Haha yeah.
  • Greek people cheap. Okay you got us.
  • Americans so fucking stupid. Hah wait. That's it? That's the joke?

This I don't understand. Where is this coming from and who honestly would be okay with being called a big dumb dildo and laugh along like it's such a well known fact about their country? We're a lot of things, act like we own the world and everyone owes us money and gratitude, eat like shit while letting everyone know how to be healthy, use little creamer cups instead of cream. We're not idiots.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Kinda like how the entirety of France isn't rude and not all Greek people are cheap

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Exactly, the problem is the first panel, not the second. But there's no monopoly on participation there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

This is the case for every country. You just see it with the US a lot more since it of course has the biggest footprint on the English-language side of the internet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Americans do a lot of stupid things, but they are most likely to be self critical in this space. I think this meme should talk about Western Europe instead, because they have many problems, but they are so often never willing to accept criticism. They're quick to call the US racist, but in my experience, Europe has so much racism it's crazy it's viewed as this anti racist place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Ask any "America is so racist" European about their thoughts on the Roma people

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I (a US citizen) literally didn't get a job in Germany because one member on the team objected because I didn't speak German yet. The company is "English first" and I worked in the US division previously. So yeah, Europeans are certainly as capable of being racist. And they didn't even try to hide it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the English language speaking race

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

I see you deal in absolutes. The person wanted a fluent German speaker despite being an English first company. Put it together in your head.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's racist to hire another more qualified candidate that can speak multiple languages in a setting that would benefit from that skill...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Clearly you must have all the details about where I worked and applied already. What an amazing ability!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Is that racism?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As an American you can make fun of America all you want. It sucks here.

The only Europeans I’ve had a problem with are the Danes. They have absolutely no sense of humor.

Or was it the Swedes? I don’t know. I mean they’re right there together. They’re basically the same people right?

Hehehehehehe

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

First of all: How dare You!?

They have absolutely no sense of humor. Or was it the Swedes?

It's definitely the Swedes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

There are only two types of people I hate. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I haven't encountered Americans getting mad over that but what I have encountered is them thinking everything involves the US, especially lately. For example people claiming the Ukraine - Russia war is a proxy war between the US and Russia instead or that NATO = US. Like chill, your country is not relevant to everything in the world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You aren't totally wrong, but this is why this mindset is pervasive...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The Ukraine conflict isn't a RU - US proxy war in the traditional sense but it's worth noting that the overwhelming majority of foreign aid to Ukraine has come from the US, more than double the amount of aid given by the EU as a whole. It's not hard to assume that Ukraine would be in a much worse place without America's support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Hey, isn't nati the one that drone strikes weddings?" "No, that the US, that us." "But america is part of nato..." "Yes, but you can't just" "Why would nato do that?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

reddit moment

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

IIT: dozens of extremely sensitive Americans not getting the irony

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We’ll show you how much we can take a joke by down voting this comment!

(Yes, this comment will be downvoted too)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Didn't vote + outplayed + you predicted wrong + go touch grass

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You sure showed me the error of my ways!

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