What do people think about paying for cloud storage with Proton? Is it safer than Dropbox?
this post was submitted on 25 Apr 2024
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Just encrypt before upload and you don’t even need to worry about it.
But Proton makes encryption the default and way easier and accessible for most people.
Sure, if you trust them and their encryption. If you encrypt yourself you can use any provider you want with no trust involved.
And it's way cheaper to go with someone like Backblaze and encrypt yourself vs something like Proton.
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For cold storage it makes sense, but I always consider UX - there's not enough solutions that make private key encryption, especially remote, as easy as opening a link or mounting to a directory.
I've used s3ql before, and it's really nice for making the encryption transparent. Not something pre-encrypting before dropbox upload can provide.
More, you wanna share those files via dropbox native tools? The recipient better have your private key or you need to reencrypt specifically for them.
Mentioned tool: https://github.com/s3ql/s3ql
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I don't understand why anyone is using gmail as their main mail account. I really don't like the interface and using it with 3rd party apps like thunderbird, K9 mail or any other client just sucks
How? I've never had any issues using gmail with Thunderbird on desktop or FairEmail on Android. By comparison, Proton mail I could get working in Thunderbird with Proton's mail bridge, but on Android I'd be stuck using their app.
Until the entire email protocol changes there are basically just no truly good options.
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I think it is important to understand that email never will be very secure because the standard wasn't made with modern threat models in mind, if you want to communicate privately and anonymously, you need modern protocols like signal, i also use proton but only because I hate Google, i don't expect my emails are any more private than they have ever been. I use email only when it is required, I use signal for private communication, overlap is impossible
It's useful to minimize data leaks too, since (especially when combined with simple login etc) you can avoid giving out your real address ever.
Your emails are.more private in the same sense that if you have a letter with something on it, turning it over means someone can't read it over your shoulder, but they could have read it before it got to you.
Google has access to the contents of your inbox, Proton mail does not. But the protocols are unchanged and unencrypted email is accessible in transit.
So moving to Proton is a definite improvement, particularly as email remains a basic means of communication. But as you say if you wand secure communication then it is very flawed.
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I was looking at it too but went for https://mxroute.com/ because they offer a very minimalistic plan without up selling.
I also found some vaucher where I paid $45 for three years with 10GB mail, unlimited domains and email addresses.
Does mxroute support a multi-user setup, say one for each family member?
I'm currently looking at switching to a new provider and haven't found the perfect replacement yet.
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm using it for my family but I'm setting up the Email addresses, so I don't think every family member can be admin, no.
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Id like to move to Proton, but goodness are there no good usernames left. I'd have to go the custom domain route which isn't awful but it's just more effort
Some services don't send verification letters to Proton and it's site banned by the address in fucked-up authoritarian countries, both for having less control over what it is and easy registration. I want them to explore some multi-site hydra approach so they can't get put out of the game that easily. Moving your emails here means you can't rely on a hope it would work tomorrow.
For anyone using a custom domain, or thinking about it, read this: https://dmarcly.com/blog/how-to-implement-dmarc-dkim-spf-to-stop-email-spoofing-phishing-the-definitive-guide
Without these records you're a lot more likely to go to spam, or get rejected outright. If you have questions about it, ask here or DM me and I'll be glad to help.
All domains you purchase through cloudflare have a fancy button on the gui to add dmarc and dkim that just say “reject” so people can’t pretend to email from your domain, pretty neat feature imo. (Not actually useful if you are trying to use it as a custom email domain though, lol)
Recently I added a custom domain to my protonmail account and during the procedure it makes you do this steps (adding SPD, DKIM and DMARC) to pass all the steps. They tell you exactly what records you have to add, where to add them and what the content should be. These guys are great
Same with Tuta, which I did last weekend. Still evaluating the service for now before telling everyone to switch to my new custom domain (I'm forwarding everything from my old domain for now).
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Yep, setup mine about a year ago now, since I'm trying to get rid of Google completely, and it walks you through all of this. It was really well done setup.
This is very helpful, thank you.
Doing the lords work
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