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Does anyone think that there'll ever be a simple EV car produced for market without all the extra junk found in most electric cars? Why or why not?

I don't see the need for the infotainment dash, personal data tracking, self-driving, lack of physical buttons, and lack or reparability.

Wouldn't it be nice to have an EV that is probably cheaper without all that forced extra stuff? Can't we just have a simple EV that has an electric engine that is reliable, cheaper, and doesn't have a need for constant software updates? Maybe you can work on it in your garage for the most part for simple maintenance.

I'd really like to have an EV one day but seems like they are all super expensive, have no sense of ownership like typical cars, are constantly tracking you, and are trying to shove extra features down your throat.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

New ICE are fully equipped with a lot of extra fancy creature comforts, too. It's not just EVs. It's used to capture the buyers interest. 50 years ago, air conditioning was an extra that cost a lot to add into the car. Are any modern ICE sold without AC or power windows?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Now that's a fun car in a small package! Is this coming to the states?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

no idea sorry

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lotus is releasing an EV to the British market that is very stripped down and pretty simple as far as cars go. Problem is I don't think they are releasing to the US market.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Hard to believe that lotus would be the one to give us a stripped down value EV. It would be kinda ironic though since without lotus, tesla wouldn't have a body for the original roadster that got them where they are today.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I know right, I've never understood why manufacturers making cars for people suffering from range anxiety want to have a motor to open and close the trunk or extend the door handles. Like people can't just lift it up or shut it by hand as we've done for decades?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

A typical EV has 65 kWh of power. It can provide 65 thousand watts of power for a full hour. That is a massive amount of power compared to which opening a trunk is an unnoticeable rounding error.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For me it's more about repairability and cost. I can easily replace a mechanical handle, that would probably be tougher and cheaper than an electric moving one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Okay, I see. My 10-year-old gas car also has a powered liftgate. I hadn’t considered that to be an EV-related feature. Powered door handles are more common on EVs though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_Ami_(electric_vehicle)

Tons of others, too. But yes, the selection is still obviously a bit spotty. Hopefully more practical and simple (and affordable) models turn up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What the hell. It's so silly and cute and I want one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Damn surprisingly expensive and more cost cutting than expected. Surely they could have managed proper doors and panel alignment at the very least at that price point. Maybe a less silly horn button posititon and whatever is needed for it to be street legal for us/can.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I test drove one and I loved it. It was like a dodgem. It was surprisingly roomy inside, insanely responsive, light, airy, and I just had a big fucking stupid grin on my big fucking stupid face the whole time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Looks like Canada can't have it though. Living here is better than a warzone at least.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Genuinely the first thought that came into my head. I want one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You might want to look into ev coversions. There are plans to convert any regular car with conversion kits into an ev car.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

My plans to do this once were halted by no preexisting motor to transmission adapter for my car and not having a CNC mill to make my own, but now you can just get it machined by pcbway or such and I might actually complete the project at some point seeing as I still have the actual car in the garage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can you imagine driving by that car through a Midwest winter? So impractical.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

You don't know that. There's an all-wheel drive version and an off-roading package, maybe it would do fine. We'll see 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Canoo vehicles seem pretty simple in principle, but we won't know for sure until they actually start shipping (if they ever do).

As an added bonus, I think they look bad ass.

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