I'm sick of TRASH Isekai, not all Isekai. There's still a good and original Isekai every now and then, but those are rare. Most of them are just fan service, harem bullshit.
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I think that has been a pretty common opinion for the past 4 years lol
My problem isn't isekai as a concept, it's the fact that all of them are pretty much the exact same. I enjoyed Sasaki and Peeps last season precisely because it deviated from most isekai
When I watched Frieren the best thing was that it was no fucking isekai. It's still competence porn, but at least she is not a middle aged man who died lonely in his bedroom. Just a classic fantasy world. Loved it
I'm not sure if the competence porn is justified in this case. She's clearly meant to be an RPG character at the end of their adventure (and consequently apex of their power), it makes sense to me she's overpowered. There's a reason most TTRPGs stop at a a certain level and sometimes even have rules and instructions for retiring.
I think it's justified, but I don't necessarily mean it in a negative way. Her competence is certainly an important part of exploring what the series is actually about, namely loss, regret, and what's really important in life, etc. Which you can have even if you are very powerful.
Now that I think about it. Maybe that's exactly the reason why it is not competence porn. Maybe her competence is analogous to a sex scene which enhances the actual topic and not the goal itself like how sex is in porn.
On the other hand I certainly watch it for the competency lol
Lots of lonely female dying isekai in the manga world too
Could you give some examples? Just curious. I want to see how they differ from male isekai in terms of escapsim. And I don't mean multiple people like in Sao or Alice in wonderland. I just watched this "project Elise doctor" and what in the world was that? A double isekai? Or a isekaiception? But it definitely was different from when boys/men die.
Loads of villainness stuff is where a woman gets isekaied. For example:
- My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom!
- I'm the Villainess, So I'm Taming the Final Boss
- Villainess Level 99: I May Be the Hidden Boss but I'm Not the Demon Lord
Aside from villainness stuff, there's also:
- I've Been Killing Slimes for 300 Years and Maxed Out My Level
- Ascendance of a Bookworm (really recommended)
- The Magical Revolution of the Reincarnated Princess and the Genius Young Lady
- The Saint's Magic Power is Omnipotent
You very much are not. However, that's how things always work out, a new theme appears and fascinates people, then everybody and their mom start using it for many years until it gets strip mined. Another comment mentioned zombies as an example, you can hardly see new zombie apocalypse stories these days because it's been overused already, before that i believe it was vampires, and other prominent themes have preceded those and passed. Isekai as a trope is still extremely popular to the point that stories that don't even need it get it tacked in as a prop to help it get popular. It's the way these things happen, and will continue until the next fun thing appears. Then it becomes just another trope to be used at the right time.
It too will pass.
no, i havent been watching anime at all for a good while because of this
I stopped liking anime at all.
The last memories I still liked are Psychopass, Tokyo Goul (till season 2) and Elfen Lied.
Maybe there are more anime that I remember as good but I miss the gore and sadness of anime which those 3 share.
I did watch some isekais and I hated all except one where a lil boy learned magic without splling it, meanwhile his dad wanted him to learn sword fights.
Psychopass had an interesting premise but I ended up feeling like the author didn't know where to take it.
Isekai's are overdone. I want to see "the worst thing that can happen to your people is for them to fall into the hands of a hero" stories.
The thing I don't like is how much of it is RPG themed but written by people who have never played any.
Or just boring ones they think will make sense to the broadest audience.
Where's my Isekai where they have to guard break and air juggle enemies to do damage??!???
I still like the concept, it's just that 90% of the stuff that uses said concept is terrible. I mean, Isekai is only an initial premise, you need A LOT more to make a good anime.
Or only use isekai as an arc rather than the general premise like hxh did
Oh yeah, i love greed island. It being an arc certainly keeps the novelty of the other world's mechanics from getting old.
To make it work as a full series you gotta have a lot more substance though, because at some point that novelty will inevitably run out. And now instead of "exciting new world where everything is different", it's just a regular world we're already used to. At that point you gotta have an actual compelling story to keep it going.
Dungeon Meshi is good, and not Isekai.
Are we talking about our favorite animes? I love One Punch Man. I love that one guy made a cool story and another guy said "let me redraw that but make all the characters sexy"
There are decades worth of good anime out there. If new stuff isn't doin it for you, pick up a show from spring 2006 or something. A lot of trash comes out every season (and always has) but nobody is forcing you to watch it.
The only good isekai is Minna Atsumare! Falcom Gakuen.
Joking (mostly) aside, i'm just sick of generic videogame style fantasy settings in anime. It's always the generic four member party with similar character designs and videogame mechanics.
Delicious in Dungeon is an example of one I sort of like for its shtick. The problem is, that seems to be all it has going for it. The dungeon design is terrible. It looks like it's cut straight from an old school first person dungeon crawler, which was the intention. Still looks like shit.
Generic fantasy videogame setting is just lazy shit. I do understand that there is other anime out there, but it's pretty much buried under piles of trash.
There's lots of good isekai. But like horror or many other genres really depends on what you like about the Isekai genre.
Delicious in Dungeon is okay but its also bad in its own way(I'm suddenly watching and enjoying it on Netflix about 8 episodes in)
It could be better.
Ascendence of a bookworm is worth it if someone wants an isekai that feels different.
The anime doesn't have to be good, it just has to make you interested in the lightnovel, which is where the profits are. With that in mind, the cheaper the anime can be produced the better. This is probably why there are so many shitty isekai and they keep coming.
Harry Potter is isekai. The Wings of Merlin by TA Baron is an isekai. Percy Jackson is an isekai.
The problem isn't the genre. The problem is that the metric became a target for cheapasses with no imagination who want that trend money.
This is the same shit that happens in every form of media when production becomes more accessible. Idiots pick up the fire and run with it.
Alice in Wonderland is an isekai.
Isekai is just Fish Out of Water on steroids which itself is just a variant on the Hero's Journey monomyth.
Isekai are popular because people like to explore what if scenarios just in general. The Isekai setup is just a convenient plot device, that's all.
Which is why the absolute worst form of Isekai is the one where they both know how the world works and it's just generic fantasy stuff on top.
Why even do it then?
Just so the protagonist can make pop culture references?
The word you're thinking of is "fantasy"
Nope. I said what I mean.
And it's wrong lol
It's not.
Hard disagree on Harry Potter as Isekai.
You have made a statement that says to me the same thing as squares are rectangles so rectangles are squares
More explanation needed if you care to convince me you are right. I dont expect you to care about my opinion. Just taking a stance on your opinion.
Ide still buy you a beer to have a conversation about it though, could be fun
I don't really care to convince you.
Glad you can admit that you are wrong lol (I'm joking if that isn't obvious)
My participation is irrelevant.
Also wrong, you are more valuable than you are giving yourself credit for! You have lots of people you can choose to mentor by having a conversation with them or at least in front of them. Thats incredibly relevant to understanding your opinion that HP is Isekai.
You totally got this, if you want this, my guy!
You have a fun attitude.
Thank you so much. I try! Sometimes i even succeed.
Much love guv!
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