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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago

If it's a subjective matter then no. Like if you thought Blade Runner sucked I might disagree with your opinion but respect that it's a matter of taste and so I won't recommend you see the sequel.

If you're just using "opinion" as a shield for something objective then yes I will. And I will laugh at you for thinking the sky is falling is a matter of opinion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to eviscerate your opinion if it is my opinion that it’s shit.

Though I try to debate ideas with logic and evidence.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (9 children)

People that spend energy on arguing their right to have opinions rather than defending the opinion are deeply uninteresting and often stupid people that I don't not respect in any capacity.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah those guys are the worst.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

This is a spread from yes to no where "yee" applies to hypothetical things that are fully objective and "no" to hypothetical things that are fully subjective

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can you give an example of what you mean by someone respecting your opinion and someone not respecting it?

As many others have said in this thread, it comes down to how you define "respect" and "opinion". Based on some of your responses, I think you are using a broad definition of "opinion", though some more clarification might be useful there. If you're worried about partisanship adding bias, try offering equivalent opinions from different directions as examples, eg "I think Trump should be president" and "I think Biden should be president".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

The depends on the opinion

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Agreeing to disagree isn't something I put caveats on.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What do you mean by respect? And is it an actual opinion, like “chocolate is delicious”, or is it just something bigoted you believe? That’s usually what people mean when they want “respect” for their “opinion”. If that’s the case, no, I don’t respect it and I don’t respect you.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Not necessarily. If you have a lot of experience or a different perspective and you seem trustworthy to me, you don't need to have a good argument. On the other hand, if someone else comes along with a good argument why your opinion is wrong, I will start doubting you.

For example, if you've been growing potatoes for 30 years, you don't have to explain the biochemistry of potatoes for me to respect your advice. And if you're a black person telling me that our town is terribly racist, I will believe you without needing a list of every single racist incident that happened to you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It depends on what your opinion is and what you mean by respect.

If your opinion is not well explained or backed up by evidence/logic and isn't something completely subjective, what is there to respect?

If your opinion is reprehensible, downright stupid, or ignorant? You have access to the entire base of human knowledge and are still ignorant, so what is there to respect?

Your opinion is completely logical/uncontroversial or is well backed by evidence? Where does respect come into it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wanted to type something really snarky, but I'm trying to be better than that.

So I refer you to the fact that you should still have respect for someone's opinion even if they don't have complete knowledge on it, or to put it your way "You have access to the entire base of human knowledge and are still ignorant, so what is there to respect?".

People are allowed to have opinions that should be respected even though they don't have complete knowledge of a subject

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

What do you mean by respected?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Depending on what you mean by respect and opinion, yes. If you're discussing an opinion then someone is probably going to expect you to explain why, that's a logical point to cover in any such discussion. Even if it's subjective. If it's an opinion on something objective, then there's an actual burden of "proof" and possible consequences, and the stakes rise accordingly.

There aren't many reasons to "properly" respect an opinion that is irrational (not just subjective), factually wrong ("interpretation" only goes so far), dishonest, or anything like that. I'm skeptical of endorsing any opinion until I know why it is what it is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I like chocolate feel free to be skeptical of endorsing it all you like I don't need to explain myself

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

good. no. valid. yes. as long as the premise is reasonable and its logical. If its about how you feel or everyone does it type of thing I just won't care as long as it just effects you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I have friends who i disagree with but respect because i know they've considered different angles and made a decision that feels right to them. I have friends who i disagree with and do not respect because they believe (or pretend to believe?) what their family, husband, tv tell them and can't express any real thoughts or opinions of their own.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Depends on how consequential it is. If it's about Taylor Swift it doesn't matter, feel however you want, but if it's about how society should be run than yeah you kinda do

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago

The you are agreement with others here. It depends on the threat level.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If you want to persuade me to think the way you do, yes.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What if I want the right to vote?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

What if our opinions are similar?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Your opinion doesn’t need to be respectable for you to have the right to vote.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

It depends on how harmful that opinion is. You prefer vanilla ice cream because you like the mild flavor - cool, difference of opinion. You prefer there were no same-sex marriages because your religion is against it - no, that affects other people’s lives so if you want me to respect that opinion you would have to have a good argument.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

If your opinion is regarding cheese, you're already on very thin ice

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