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Establishment Democrats looking to recover from 2024's losses fear Mamdani could hurt the party's brand nationally

don't they know only going right is the only acceptable solution!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

This reminds me of the 2021 mayoral election in Buffalo, NY, where a progressive won the Democrat primary, but the conservatives (both Republicans and establishment Democrats) joined forces to back the establishment candidate in the general election.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Other Democrats see Mamdani — a state Assembly member with a history of controversial comments about Israel and policing — as politically toxic for a party whose national success depends on its ability to attract votes in less progressive places nationwide.

So, to the DNC, it's better to see the winning Democratic candidate defeated in the general now because that will ensure victory in Alabama in a year or three? The propaganda machine will smear anyone who dares to run with a D next to their name. You might as well own it and embrace the positions your voters want.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

How quickly we forget what happened to Bernie Sanders in 2016

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

*continue to lost Alabama for the foreseeable future

They would rather hem and haw over how they think the public might respond somewhere else than motivate the user base that chose that candidate and spread that out to other areas.

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

... that will ensure victory in Alabama ...

Narrator: It won't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Reality check: Many Democratic Party leaders had believed Mamdani's past comments would be disqualifying to most primary voters. They were wrong.

They will continue being wrong for the foreseeable future as well, because they don't understand how to motivate a user base.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

They don't want to motivate a voter base. They want to continue collecting giant checks from corporate donors and the 1%.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hate to admit it but there are some lessons we can learn from Trump lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean love 'em or hate 'em but fascists are experts in engaging youth, political organizing and direct action.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Which frankly he learned from Obama. Unfortunately the Democrats failed to iterate.

To the day I still don’t understand how waltz wasn’t just bouncing from white male podcast to white male podcast lecturing them about how to fix their trucks and how being a man means taking care of your community, using examples like MN’s school lunch program. They had a pocket ace right there, A boomer who could flip the script on masculinity And link it with progressive ideals. But they basically just hid him away until the election. Ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The answer is simple: They don't want people to take care of their communities; to them that tax money should be going to billionaires and corporations (and, by extension, themselves). The actions of the DNC make a lot more sense if you assume they don't stand for any of the things they claim to stand for.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I get it very easy to boil it down to that, but I don’t think it’s quite that simple. For instance, why do they pick them in the first place? The entire rhetoric around him, including in the news media, was about his relatability to progressives and young men alike. Everyone seemed to be on the same page. Then Harris‘s election strategy became basically to go silent

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Same reason they picked Harris: they're drinking their own kool-aid on identity politics. Just like how because Harris is a black woman they tried to sell her as a progressive feminist and not the bootlicking prosecutor she actually is, they assumed that because Walz was an old white guy he was only pretending to use progressive rhetoric and shat their pants when they realized he was genuine about it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That... is a fair point. In that case I have no idea.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Right!? It’s truly a mystery to me. I guess they really just thought Trump would hang himself in the end but clearly they were wrong