Tell me, who are these companies making all the emissions for? Are the global citizens consuming goods from another realm that don't require companies to make?
this post was submitted on 19 Apr 2024
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Lol you think a link is going to stop anyone scraping Lemmy data for AI training?
No, what it means is that if they can prove someone scraped their data and used it for commercial gain - they can sue them for real money.
I am skeptical.
There's nothing to be skeptical about.
The difficulty isn't in establishing legal precedence, the difficulty is in the proof. How do you prove that your data is distinguishable from any of the other countless people who have had their data scraped?
I don't think it's bad to set yourself up for a future payday, but it will take a lot of work from someone else in order to see it pay off.
You might be able to prompt the AI to tell you itself by asking about text that goes with the label. I was able to get chatgpt 3.5 to do a bit of that, though it still kept it fairly generic.
The part I'm skeptical about is whether you can apply whatever license you want to text you post on a public forum just by pasting a link at the bottom.
No one but complete morons are asking to specifically make a product by emitting carbon dioxide. No company is emitting co2 for "the global citizens". They make products to earn money. Emissions are an avoidable by-product no one asked for.
No one but complete morons are asking to specifically make a product by emitting carbon dioxide
Agreed
Emissions are an avoidable by-product no one asked for.
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How is this not a contradiction?
No company is emitting co2 for “the global citizens”. They make products to earn money.
How do you expect them to earn money without selling to global citizens?
Saying that our only options are to produce stuff or not produce CO2 at a gargantuan scale is a false dichotomy. CO2 production at the scale that it is now is the result of the production processes that result in that CO2 being cheaper than the ones that on the whole, do not. We are flushing this planet down the drain not because we cant do otherwise but because its cheaper right now to do what were doing instead.
Saying that our only options are to produce stuff or not produce CO2 at a gargantuan scale is a false dichotomy.
Completely false conclusion to my questions. I'm saying companies make stuff because they want to make money. They can make money because people buy it. So, if people didn't buy stuff, companies couldn't sell stuff, and they couldn't make money.
We live in society of waste and overconsumption. The EU throws away more food than it imports, but if you think that's wasteful, the average USAian consumes double to triple the amount of energy a European does and even more food.
Yes, companies don't make a big effort to reduce wasteful production processes, don't voluntarily make an effort to reduce emissions, and lobby as hard as they can to continue doing so because it's cheaper. However, we the consumers, the "global citizens" - and let's actually be clear, it's the global north - consume more than we should, waste more than we should, and lot of it happens by ignoring the destruction wrought by the companies we buy from.
We are all the fucking problem. We work at these companies that pollute. We buy from these companies that pollute - and not even the least amount possible; we lavishly indulge. We vote for politicians that choose to turn a blind eye. We generate billions of tons of waste and happily do more.
Lmao global citizens asking for that, when I bet most don't give a shit
Because oil companies paid millions or even billions for propaganda that climate change isn't real or not their fault.
I think that's mostly just Western world shit. I'm talking about the vast majority of the world's population who aren't as comfortable that they'd care or willing to worsen their quality of life or pay for more etc. They're not victims of oil company propaganda, they are victims of their circumstances.
Isn't that basically why laws need to be put in place ensuring that these high emitting companies (which are mostly from the global north) reduce their carbon emissions? The circumstances are often consequnce of ongoing western exploitation and they will just get worse if nothing is changed because it is not the rich countries which will suffer most from climate change.
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Unfair comparison – Isildur was a great leader, defeated Sauron and resisted the dark pull of the One Ring for decades. Corporativist scum, on the other hand, brings no benefit to anyone.
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Capitalism working as intended
EDIT: I was made aware that the headline is misleading
Maybe it's a stupid question, but aren't the companies that burn the fossil fuel responsonsible for the emmisions?
Only the it's not companies but entities which include China, the former soviet union and the Russian federation. This is such a fucking missleading title the guardian ran here.
https://carbonmajors.org/briefing/The-Carbon-Majors-Database-26913
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