Would I prefer another candidate? Sure. Will I vote for Biden, especially against Trump? With alacrity!
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And is that other candidate in the room with us now? I mean seriously, who would it be?
Bernie Sanders, one of if not the most popular politician in America or AOC who ranks similarly.
Much as I like Bernie, swapping out one geriatric dude for another one isn't really the way to go. And AOC will never be accepted by the Dem establishment.
swapping out one geriatric dude for another one isn't really the way to go
Yeah, because their age is their only characteristic 🙄
Bernie's policy positions appeal to a much wider range of people, including college students and the working poor who have to overcome a lot of voter suppression in order to vote and thus need more motivation.
Biden's core audience of financially comfortable yoga moms, Blue Dog Democrats and NYT subscribers are guaranteed votes for any presidential candidate with a (D) behind their name, but there's not enough of them to outnumber the crazies guaranteed to vote for the Mango Mussolini.
Its not just the party that wanted someone else, its 70% of dem voters
This headline is so confusing..
Do they mean Democrats would prefer another candidate or Repuplicans would?
Yes, I think democrats wanted another candidate (Bernie was running away with it till the mass drop out and endorsement of Biden, eg, ratfuck two, electric boogaloo), but I also think democrats are resigned to voting for Biden.
Like its fine, we didn't want him in the first place but this is obviously a strategic vote.
He's getting a lot of votes for someone we didn't want.
Again, who are you talking about?
I notice the talking points have shifted around to "the Democrats all wanted it to be someone else" in the last couple of days. It's the kind of fact-free criticism that can worm its way into people's minds and is tough to counteract.
A shitload of democrats and just about all independents to the left of the DNC (which is millions if not tens of millions of potential voters) DID want someone else and still do, though.
Especially since he's stubbornly refusing to depart from his unconditional support for the Israeli apartheid regime even as more and more voters do.
Disclaimer: I'm not saying that he's not a MUCH lesser evil than Trump or that anyone who can shouldn't vote for him.
That doesn't mean that he's above criticism or universally popular amongst everyone to the left of the fascist GOP. Which are supposed to be the people he's representing.
A shitload of democrats...
That's always true in every election, and should be. If it were most Democrats, someone might have beat Biden in the primaries, but they won't.
I'm getting old. Biden is the farthest left president of my lifetime and there's no major candidate running to his left this year.
If it were most Democrats, someone might have beat Biden in the primaries
No way to know for sure since the primaries are controlled by the party leadership, all of whom are firmly pro-Biden and some of whom have been known to rig the contests in favor of their preferred candidates before.
I'm getting old. Biden is the farthest left president of my lifetime
No. Even Obama was further left and he was very much a Clintonite too.
Some of Congress and some on Biden's cabinet (most of which were appointed on the advice of others) are further left, but Biden himself is just barely to the left of Joe Manchin.
there's no major candidate running to his left this year.
Because they're literally not allowed to by the DNC leadership.
"Someone else" sure. But not anyone on the ballot. For me they'd need to be both more progressive AND have a shit's chance of beating Trump. Bernie maybe but he's not going to pull centrist votes nor will he dodge the age question. Biden is, unfortunately, our best shot at retaining democracy for another 4 years.
Bernie could have done it in 2016 and in 2020, but not this round. Biden did actually win the big party, so you stick with the horse that runs.
stick with the horse that runs.
But cant find his way off stage?
Meh, whatever.
He's trash, but he's the best shot we've got at keeping the wheels on this shit cart.
Bernie couldn't even win the Democratic primary, how was he gonna win the general?
Bernie was running away with it both times, before ratfuckery ensued. You can live in denial of it, but whatever, it happened.
OP constantly posts that talking point.
People burying their head in the sand wont change his numbers.