I would like to see a more accurate one that actually just listed passed and proposed legislation for each one instead of just circlejerk fodder.
this post was submitted on 18 Apr 2024
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Clinton is one of the worst. The party went, can't beat 'em, might as well join em.
Clinton essentially fulfilled some of the great Republican dreams of deregulation. See Glass-Stegall how he joined hands with Republicans. Which you can then fast forward to the banking and financial crisis that hit the world and screwed economies and brought austerity programs worldwide.
Dare ya to read up on all the congressional stock trading from not just Repubs but very much Dems as well.
The party went fully corporate with Clinton.
"The era of big government is over" from his 1996 state of the union.
Three strikes laws, too.
It's not the 90s anymore. Right now the most pro-union president in history is running against a literal fascist.
I don't disagree but it bears repeating. If you ignore the past, you never learn from it. You get repetition. Control of the narrative very much influences the present and therefore, the future.
The devastating illegal war in Iraq was not only costly to human life, but also to the social and economic damage to Iraq and the US afterwards. Ironically it helped create a more virulent terrorism in the region where there was none before. Falsified reports of terrorists in Iraq were a reason for the war mongers and war profiteers to go all out Dr. Strangelove and justify the war.
The financial crisis and the toll it took and its after effects weave right into life today. No one was charged, Bernie Madoff was a perfect fall guy for an entire financial and banking industry that fought against any changes to the way of doing things.
Obama's admin basically helped enshrine "Too big to fail" and they all got away with the damage they wrought.
Never any repercussions or prosecutions or accountability for people bringing humans to the brink, to one abyss or another. Whether it was Reagan and Iran-Contra, or even Clinton being impeached for lying under oath and obstruction of justice. Had Clinton been impeached, perhaps Trump would never have risen. But when people see powerful people getting away with 'it', whatever it is, then that creates a future where someone like Trump will get away with 'it'. You've undermined equal under the rule of law and that has blowback.
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OK who let the DNC get a lemmy.world account
Sorry, it can't be tankies all day every day.
I'm convinced that Lemmy is riddled with Russian bot farms trying to stir up shit. I'm mostly democrat and believe Biden is a net good over Trump, but I won't delude myself into thinking they care about me personally. How-fucking-ever, Trump is a literal threat to our democracy and if we can't rally against him by rallying for Biden, we're absolutely fucked. And you morons are just giving into this extreme lefty rhetoric because of people like Hasan? That mother fucker is a millionaire and lives like one too.
Lemmy is a worse echo chamber than reddit. I was proud when I came here during the API-bullshit and supported Sync for Lemmy but I can't do this shit any more. I'm actually embarrassed to come here and read all this anti Biden shit while you guys complain about roe v wade being overturned, billionaires (which trump made the biggest tax cuts in history to), Israel (which is somehow Biden's fault? 🤣).
I believe this post, OP. Whether you're trolling or not. Everyone else can go fuck yourselves. Go ahead and ban this one too, mods. Since we're not living in an echo chamber.
Many of us on the Left will vote for Biden because we're terrified of another Trump presidency but like to complain about how we resent having to do so. I want far more than dems give us. I want actual care for the people who make up our country. I know I'm not gettin' that, so I complain and vote for the less-bad of the two.
Before the Reddit API exodus, Lemmy was a lot harder left leaning. Lemmygrad (literal communists) were the largest instance, and tankies on Lemmy.ml still make up a decent portion of the userbase. So don't be surprised that there's a lot more extreme viewpoints here.
Seems to happen more and more with the internet as a whole. There's always a douchebag or edge lord to come in and drop a post "bomb" just to watch ppl squirm. Hell I don't even think it's the internet that is bad, it's the ppl on it. Alot of us are sick in the head and it's depressing.
Counterpoint: lemmy is full of reddit bots making it seem like there's an echo chamber so that people abandon it to go back to reddit
It's just so exhausting, right? Im with you 100% on this.
Suppose we survive Trump, 60-40 ish. Who comes next? Is every future election going to be a fight to keep democracy?
it was 51-47 last time and it's been getting closer and closer each time.
the fact that you don't know either of this despite it being available in a 5 second google search proves that we're screwed and going to have to keep doing this until there is no longer a "lesser evil" to vote for.
EDIT: this isn't any kind of an indictment on you; i feel that your view is extremely common and felt the need to point that out.
Yes.
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I would not say both sides are the same, but this a bullshit oversimplification. The dems are not some ray of sunshine who have only made this country better.
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Don't be blind.... Every President gets more money for rich people in some way or another. Some just also try to help the little man sometimes.
All presidents kinda suck....you can't get to that level of power without some compromise of character
If you look up the CPG grey video "rules for rulers" it logically explains exactly why that's necessary for anyone vying for the job. It's a necessary part of the current structure of mass governance unfortunately.
The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. To summarise: it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarise the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. To summarise the summary of the summary: people are a problem.