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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (10 children)

The number of solutions/roots is equal to the highest power x is raised to (there are other forms with different rules and this applies to R and C not higher order systems)

Some roots can be complex and some can be duplicates but when it comes to the real and complex roots, that rule generally holds.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

This only ever got handed down to us as gospel. Is there a compelling reason why we should accept that (-3) × (-3) = 9?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You can look at multiplication as a shorthand for repeated addition, so, for example:

3x3=0 + 3 + 3 + 3 = 9

In other words we have three lots of three. The zero will be handy later...

Next consider:

-3x3 = 0 + -3 + -3 + -3 = -9

Here we have three lots of minus three. So what happens if we instead have minus three lots of three? Instead of adding the threes, we subtract them:

3x-3 = 0 - 3 - 3 - 3 = -9

Finally, what if we want minus three lots of minus three? Subtracting a negative number is the equivalent of adding the positive value:

-3x-3 = 0 - -3 - -3 - -3 = 0 + 3 + 3 + 3 = 9

Do let me know if some of that isn't clear.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This was very clear. Now that I see it, I realize it’s the same reasoning why x^(-3) is 1/(x^3):

 2 × -3 = -6
 1 × -3 = -3
 0 × -3 =  0
-1 × -3 =  3

Thank you!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (10 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Middle school math memes

[–] [email protected] 113 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 71 points 7 months ago

Eh, not really. It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure the rule in algebra when solving for a squared variable like this is to use ± for exactly that reason.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Doesn’t x also equal -3?

[–] [email protected] 90 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Uhm, actually 🤓☝️!

Afaik sqrt only returns positive numbers, but if you're searching for X you should do more logic, as both -3 and 3 squared is 9, but sqrt(9) is just 3.

If I'm wrong please correct me, caz I don't really know how to properly write this down in a proof, so I might be wrong here. :p
(ps: I fact checked with wolfram, but I still donno how to split the equation formally)

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

You're correct. The square root operator only returns the principal root (the positive one).

So if x^2 = 9 then x = ±√9 = ±3

That's why in something like the quadratic formula we all had to memorize in school its got a "plus or minus" in it: -b ± √...(etc)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

x^2 = 9

<=>

|x| = sqrt(9)

would be correct. That way you get both 3 and -3 for x.

That's the way your math teacher would do it. So the correct version of the statement in the picture is: "if x^2 = 9 then abs(x) = 3"

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