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i mean, just in case azov wasn't being an obviously enough clue to convince someone that ukraine is filled with nazis
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is this ai generated, dudes hands are tripping me out a little?
This is some high level of mental gymnastic right there.
Rude
ukraine hasn't been too good at beating russia, but its been excellent at spreading fascism
but its been excellent at spreading fascism
Ukraine is just the symptom- the festering boil of the infection. The source is the west, specifically the Anglosphere, who inspired the OG Nazis and countless other fascists to begin with, who tried to set them up against the Soviets and internal German leftists, who backed the Banderites and countless other fascists long after Nazi Germany was dead and gone, and who overthrew Ukraine's legitimate neutral government in order to create a stronghold for their beloved Nazis and to further threaten and encircle Russia.
Bandera himself spend few years in West Germany tied to, protected and doing political assassinations for most likely Gehlen Organisation (that is CIA), BND and possibly also British and Italian intelligence services. His organisation, formed from his OUN people and former SS-men murdered around 100 people in West Germany and comitted so many other crimes that BND had to protect them from Bavarian local govt crackdown.
Indeed, supporting nazis stopped being taboo in the west at this point. Now we're increasingly seeing whitewashing by nazis by politicians and the media. The whole standing ovation to a nazi by Canadian parliament was a great example. They actually tried to present him as fighting against Soviet occupation. They're rewriting history and using Ukraine to shut anybody who contradicts them up.
I think Zelensky just fired this guy, like, today.
There still hasn't been an official firing, even after Vicky flew over and evidently backed Zelensky. It looks like there's a coup unfolding as we speak given that the military seems to be backing Zaluzhny, and if Zelensky can't control the military then he's well and truly fucked.
Question is - what would the puppeteers do, should the coup happen? Aforementioned Vicki and the rest of the bastards. Borell. What's her face, the Nato ghoul woman.
Also a question what would Russian military do.
We're in uncharted territory at that point I suspect. A lot of it would depend on what position Ukrainian military takes at that point. One scenario is that they realize they lost, and they would try to negotiate for peace with Russia after the coup. Another could be that they decide to keep going and make a new arrangement with the west.
Either way, I think that the situation will largely spiral out of western control if this happens. The west is very clearly backing Zelensky on this, so the military taking over would go directly against western wishes.
On top of that, there would be huge political fallout in the west. They've been propping up Zelensky as this hero figure for the past two years, him getting couped by his own military is going to leave people in the west very confused and asking questions that don't have easy answers. This will likely further tank any remaining support for the war in the west.
If Ukraine continues to try and fight then nothing really changes from Russian perspective. However, if they do try to negotiate peace then it gets more complicated. On the one hand, it will be in everyone's interest to stop the war and end the suffering. On the other, Russia is winning and has committed massive resources to this now. Leaving the job half done doesn't really make sense.
My guess would be if Ukraine does surrender then Russia will insist that it becomes effectively demilitarized and breaks relations with the west.
My guess would be if Ukraine does surrender then Russia will insist that it becomes effectively demilitarized and breaks relations with the west.
That would mean the end for the Banderites and the Nazis, no matter what form the unconditional surrender takes. Which is interesting in itself, since Zal is a Banderite fascist, one among many in the state apparatus. My bet is Russia will not tolerate these people in any way, shape or form, thus if the Ukrainian state survives (as a rump state, without Kharkov, Nikolaev and Odessa perhaps, but we'll see) - the entire government would have to be purged. If they coup Zelensky and surrender, they will have to go as well, I think
I agree, denazification was always stated as one of hte main objectives and I expect they will purge banderites with extreme prejudice.
You’re quite right. I tend to have a flare for the dramatic, here is the tweet that revealed the “maybe firing” from the great Ivan Katchanovski of anyone is curious. He always stays updated on the Ukraine situation:
There's no question that Zelensky wants to get rid of Zaluzhny, and tensions between the two have been reported for a while. It seems that now this power struggle has reached the boiling point. If Zelensky doesn't manage to get rid of Zaluzhny in the next few days, he's basically done.
He's only been telling the US that he is about to fire him. There's not been an official removal yet.
Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky is set to meet his top army commander, Valeriy Zaluzhny, for the first time since the president tried and failed on force out the popular army general.
Apparently Zal is more popular in Ukr than Zel is right now. A general refusing to be fired is not a good sign.
I had no idea he was so popular among the citizenry…
That's an understatement of the century there. What we're seeing is that the leader of the country told his top general that he has no confidence in him, and asked him to resign. The general refused and told him to stuff it. This is the highest level of insubordination, and it clearly demonstrates that Zelensky no longer controls the military. What exactly does a president who doesn't have control over the military control in war time?
This is a good example for world leaders needing to be on good terms with their military…
At this point they might just go ahead and admit it openly, running around throwing roman salutes. Though, something tells me even that won't get the liberals convinced
from what i've read in Simplicus' blog, he's openly a banderite and a protector of the remaining azov batallion fucks
yup, pretty much all senior military command in Ukraine is
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WTF is this Yoda shit?
While baby Yoda is cute, I support this connection. Disney deserves to have its name tied irreversibly with Nazism and genocide forever.
Fascists are OBSESSED with star war and in general Disney shit. As much as they complain about WOKE in the media destroying their media they’re the first in line to consuming the slop anyway
They like the Empire. They like that it’s racially supremacist and genocidal. They purposefully missed the point.
They get the point, even if they’d never outwardly admit it. Their ideology is just opposed to ours.
I don’t expect most Americans to understand the media they consume even at a surface level. If it’s aesthetically pleasing and the music brings out any sort of emotion other than the constant state of rage they feel then they’ll love it
That is by far not exclusive to Americans. Reactionaries and Libs from all corners of the globe have an insane lack of media analysis. There’s also nothing wrong with that last part as well. People should be allowed to turn their brains off sometimes for a movie. The problem is when you have worse media skills then a toddler.
I agree that it isn’t an issue and in most cases I enjoy a film without being overly analytical because it does get tiring
Yoda chose the dark side