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I swear to god, more and more I keep having 'clean' versions play on Spotify, YouTube Music, Deezer - despite the song being marked as 'Explicit'.

And no, I definitely do not have the setting checked for only playing clean versions.

It's not just me - is it?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

I've noticed this using Spotify. If I manually play an explicit song - either directly or in an album or playlist - I get the uncensored version. If I ask Google Assistant to play the song, I get the censored version.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

What im pissed about is that they used the censored version when they remastered this:

https://www.discogs.com/release/10057933-The-Doors-The-Doors

How much more censorship like this will happen in the future?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

The worst example is the clean version of Ace hood's bugatti, you got on an near game trial. Nearly every other word was absent. It was ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've only noticed this with one song in my Spotify library, Johnny Cash's "A Boy Named Sue". I saved it years ago and near the end is a line "I'm the son of a bitch that named you Sue". Out of nowhere about a year ago the album version changed to be "I'm the [bleep] that named you Sue". It still shows the full lyrics, it's just the audio that's changed and it drives me up the wall.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That happens to a lot of songs with a a snippet of "socially" frowned upon lyrics. From a "Boy Named Sue to "My Dingaling" to When You Get a Hair Cut" to "Money for Nothin'". Recording artists often have recorded 2 different versions of some songs - one for people to buy and one that can be played on the radio due to "decency laws" set by the FCC and local ordinances.

It's been that way since the 1930s in the US.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

I'm familiar with the way censored versions of songs work, I'm more miffed that the version I had saved was the explicit version until it randomly got changed to the censored version.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I worked on exactly this for a while, a long, long time ago. It turns out to be an annoyingly difficult bag of problems. The record companies don't really care, they sell (sold, I guess) pieces of plastic. (Idk if they fixed it yet, but the same Turbonegro album kept getting sent with the same scratches, kept getting taken down a while later, for years.) So, good luck trusting them to label anything.

Puritans are so much more aggressive than sane people that making mistakes one way is much more expensive than the other way.

Anyway, we ended up trying to work out which tracks are actually the same song, (Easy for you, harder for friend computer, yes?) and then if one of them is marked explicit, they all are, unless marked "radio edit" or "clean", or whatever. If you think about this for a minute, if one track is labeled "radio edit", maybe the other ones should be marked explicit...

It's a deep rabbit hole, is what I'm saying.

And the people with the pitchforks are never happy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I get that it's not necessarily simple, however... Firstly, surely streaming companies could push for a standard formatting to make their lives easier. And second, why does a track that was previously explicit suddenly start playing as the clean version one day? Why is the data for it continually being changed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Could 'push', yes, as in, "we mentioned it in passing when rock and roll grandpa wasn't paying attention, so he wouldn't throw a hissy fit and withdraw from the service". Oh, you meant to the labels? Ha ha ha, NO. The labels have basically nuclear option veto powers.

As for changes, well, updates get delivered all the time, for various reasons. (The scratched Turbonegro album being one frequent flyer.) I think a lot of those are bullshit SEO-like reasons, but it is what it is.

Which artist appears in most frequent releases? I forget, but I think it's Elvis. Possibly Johnny Cash. Why? Because some material has gone out of copyright in some jurisdictions, and so people have the idea to upload them again in 'new' compilations. (The content team don't even beat these down personally -- that's machine work)

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not just you... I've had both clean and explicit versions playing of the same songs coming up randomly and it's annoying.

I legit want an option to only use the explicit versions, the clean ones never sound good where they clean it up, and sometimes they even use those stupid sound effects that just frankly destroy the song. If the service only has the clean version, I think I'd rather it just not play it at all

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

I honestly never even knew the cleaned up versions existed before we went on a trip to america and that s all that played on the radio.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Haven't noticed this on Spotify

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I did with teenage dirtbag. album version good, some weird collection album was edited to shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

yeah I can understand the motivation for removing "gun"
but "her boyfriend's a dick" is a perfectly valid lyric. How in the fuck-flavoured fuck is "dick" so offensive to people?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

He's a Gick, and that's the last I want to hear about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I wonder if it's cheaper to just store and vend the censored version from a CDN? Though maybe they could just do the censor step in the app, idk

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