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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

TranscriptionAn American Humane Certified Safety Representative visited the Snow Buddies set on the first day of filming. Fifteen Golden Retriever puppies were on set and fifteen other were being treated by a local veterinarian, and their illnesses were eventually diagnosed as Giardia and Coccidia. On request from the representative the remaining puppies on set received additional veterinary checks. Twenty-five of the puppies were from an American breeder and five were from a Canadian breeder. It was discovered that the puppies were approximately 8 weeks old, which lead to the belief that the puppies were only 6 weeks old when they were brought by the trainer to the movie set. Per the USDA it was at the time illegal to transport puppies under the age of 8 weeks.

After the removal of all 30 puppies, 28 older Golden Retriever puppies were brought in to continue filming. All of the 28 older puppies were exposed to parvovirus. Five of the puppies died, and up to six others fell ill after exposure to the virus.

As a result, the film was not permitted to use the "No animals were harmed..." disclaimer and received an "Unacceptable" marking from the American Humane Association.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (14 children)

What's the conventional wisdom as to why this is so bad, but eating meat basically gets a pass? Like, meat offers sustenance, yes, but it's by no means required. So basically, humans eat meat because it tastes really good


it's great "culinary entertainment."

This is a different kind of entertainment, but it's deeply offensive to many folks. I'm not trying to be a dick about it, just curious why this is seen as such a sin.

Is it that these animals weren't "supposed" to be killed? Would a movie about a beef cow who ends up getting slaughtered, both onscreen and IRL, be seen as better? Worse?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

fair point but killing for entertainment is pure evil. Killing cause you have to eat is neccesary evil.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You have to eat, but you don't have to eat meat. It's just as optional as creating art that involves animal abuse. (Not a vegan, just interested in this topic).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Humans need nutrition and vitamins found in meat. Without them they get health issues or die. When lab grown meats are available, real meats become optional.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

We need things that can be found in meat. With some effort, you can obtain them from alternative sources.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I assume that "No animal were harmed" claim cannot be used in film where real meat are consumed?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Broadly, people are not ok with animals being mistreated. An animal that is raised in safe, comfortable conditions and then killed painlessly is not mistreated by the standards of many people.

Abusing a puppy and kitten to make a film is absolutely mistreatment, hence the different reaction.

I'm not trying to be a dick about it

Doubt. "Just asking questions" is so often a deliberate dick move.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (9 children)

safe, comfortable conditions and then killed painlessly

Do you even think this is real

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Welcome to veganism! 🌱💚🌱

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I suppose if I had a cow living in my home with me that would be a problem. It's familiarity.

And puppies

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 gj

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have never heard of this movie or the whole franchise (did some searching) before. It's not even something I have seen anything about and wasn't interested, I've literally never seen or heard anything about any of this. But I'm not surprised, nothing as big as Disney exists without many skeletons in the closet. Haven't given them any money since I was a teenager, and that won't ever change.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

If you had a kid at the time you'd know about it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Go watch Milo and Otis again. Holy shit. They through a fucking kitten off a cliff.

After doing some wtf research, the thing was filmed in China. Those poor kittens and puppies.

*Threw

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/animals-abused-milo-and-otis/

That was a rumor, and has never been verified despite decades of discussion and many attempts to prove or disprove it. Also, it was filmed in Japan, not China.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Was just about to mention milo and Otis. I loved that movie as a kid. Felt pretty bad rediscovering it as an adult.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Oh shit, that's fucking CHATRAN, I loved that as a kid :(

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

"here. Get bit by this lobster"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

oof, right in the childhood

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Here comes the dog, strong and brave, WOOF!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I loved that movie growing up and had my own copy. And then as an adult I learnt about that dark, dark history.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

image of text
no link to source or actual text
pointlessly breaking the web & accessibility

Does OP know about this alternative to images of text called text? 🤦

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No not a link to a wiki but the pervasive weird ass AI favored descriptions of all images in Lemmy. It’s fucking weird

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not for AI, its for accessibility. Alt text is a user-generated description of an image that's been standardized for screen readers. It also helps to have a text description if the image hosting breaks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

So why is alt text suddenly no longer aria tags and otherwise? Why is accessibility now plastered text across a Lemmy pic? In scenarios that have never been considered accessibility critical?

I can see the image, and I can see the text… no meta data for screen readers… Why are we now rendering sentences VISUALLY onto images?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oic, you're complaining about screenshots of text as memes, not alt text.

Carry on.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In a movie from 2008, so it wasn't that long ago. You'd think they would have known better by then. Another reminder to boycott Disney.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Known better? Probably.

Cared better? Absolutely not.

Imagine the caliber of person it takes to neglect a golden retriever to death.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can’t even imagine the kind of person you have to be to actually let this movie get published about a bunch of cute little puppy dogs if you had the power to stop it and you knew what happened.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

This is the same company that, 60 years ago, built a turntable to throw lemmings off the edge of a cliff for a "nature documentary" since they weren't jumping over on their own.

Lemmings do not actually commit suicide in nature...

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

WTF?! Man I love Air Bud franchise but I never saw Snow Buddies. I was thinking of doing a re-watch and see all the Air Bud movies I haven't seen yet. But after seeing this news I'm not so sure....

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

space buddies made me cry as a kid

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's in that movie? I have a DVD but have not watched it yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

i cant remember anything about it just that i cried to it 😂

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Also #FuckDisney

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Werner Herzog boiled 11000 living rats in ink for Nosferatu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosferatu_the_Vampyre

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Dutch behavioral biologist Maarten 't Hart, hired by Herzog for his expertise with laboratory rats, revealed that, after witnessing the inhumane way in which the rats were treated, he no longer wished to cooperate. Apart from traveling conditions that were so poor that the rats, imported from Hungary, had started to eat each other upon arrival in the Netherlands, Herzog insisted the plain white rats be dyed gray. To do so, according to 't Hart, the cages containing the rats needed to be submerged in boiling water for several seconds, causing another half of them to die. The surviving rats proceeded to lick themselves clean of the dye immediately, as 't Hart had predicted they would.

Holy shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At what point do you just buy gray rats? Where in the cost benefit analysis does boiling rats in ink come in?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess when buying 11000 rats you are somewhat constrained in your choice of color. It's not like you can order them made in a custom color.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not like they needed all 11000 of them. Half of them died from being submerged in boiling dye... Surely, it would have been easier with half a magnitude smaller quantity.

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