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Meta is treading carefully, doing a phased implementation while continuing conversations with Fediverse leaders. This will give the company more time to iron out some of the integration kinks. “Do we adapt the protocol to be able to support this?” Lambert asks. “Or do we try to do some kind of interesting, unique implementation?” For example, Threads supports audio posts, a feature not currently supported within ActivityPub, so Meta is experimenting with “federating” a text transcription of the original post instead of the audio version.

It was never a good idea federating with Threads

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (6 children)

For as long as this article is, it is remarkably free of journalism. It is basically a press release from Meta saying that they're planning to implement Threads in a few months, and don't feel like saying more about it than that.

“Do we adapt the protocol to be able to support this?” Lambert asks. “Or do we try to do some kind of interesting, unique implementation?”

This is a fascinating question, both in its lack of an answer, and in the inherent framing of the question that of course they're going to introduce incompatibilities, and the discussion is simply about how to do it.

Mastodon allows some artistic nudity

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Additionally, specifics are still murky regarding exactly how user data will be handled after the connections between networks are established. For example, if you federate a post from Threads and decide to delete it afterwards, what happens to the cached post on the servers of the other networks?

That... is not the central question that's on people minds about how user data will be handled. Presumably you were in a position to ask Rachel Lambert, the product manager at Meta who started the company's journey towards interoperability, a more obvious and salient question, and include in your article her response.

Meta is treading carefully, doing a phased implementation while continuing conversations with Fediverse leaders.

Who are these leaders and what are they saying about this? This, also, seems like it would have been pertinent information to include. If Meta's answer was "You're not allowed to know that at present," then including that response seems like it would have made the article quite a bit more informative than simply pretending it didn't occur to you to ask for any details about this.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (7 children)

i guess ill say it again. meta hasnt modified the protocol, and the bells and whistles they feed their own users on their own instance means nothing to the rest of the 'verse. calm the fuck down

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are these audio only posts? That sounds like a terrible direction for the fediverse to go. We already have enough videos of people staring at their phone while talking.

Did everyone forget how to read?

Yes, I read the bit about transcription.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the cool part is we dont have to care about the audio piece. its not being federated: i dont give a shit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh no, I totally agree.

My comment is more on the trend of where general social media seems to be heading.

That said, as long as we can continue to ignore… great!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Besides the obvious repulsion for anything Meta, that's a novel thing to see, I'm kinda curious to see what happens with the user reception of these audio posts

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

How is audio different from other media types (e.g. images, videos, etc) that it isn’t / couldn’t be supported by activity pub?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Pretty sure it's not. Wired is just talking about the wrong thing. Currently threads voice posts federate fine.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I don't know. Mastodon already supports audio posts, how does that federate? Why can't Threads do the same thing?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (3 children)

For example, Threads supports audio posts, a feature not currently supported within ActivityPub, so Meta is experimenting with “federating” a text transcription of the original post instead of the audio version.

Here we go

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

i dont get the fear here. if they are putting text into a field designed for text, thats somehow an extension of AP?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Embrace Extend Extinguish

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   we are here
[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

they modified AP already? wow that was quick. i was under this crazy impression they were using text in a field designed for text. silly me!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No the next step is saying that text transcription didn't worked like they wanted so we need to change the AP to allow what the majority wants(spoiler: they are the majority)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

i didnt know they could unilaterally change AP for everyone. who let them have that right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm just joking, I don't think they can make a change unilaterally easily.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

that is one of my only actual concerns. he who controls the protocol, controls the 'verse.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (7 children)

It's far worse. They're making improvements only on their side. The protocol everyone uses will lack the features their protocol offers. In other words, their side of the garden is now greener than ours, and one day, their side will be so majestic and beautiful compared to ours that almost nobody will want to visit it anymore, and like a flame without fuel, the Fediverse will Extinguish on its own.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Lots of furries in their future I’d suppose

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