Oh look. A conservative traitor instigated the violence.
I am many shades of unsurprised.
Domestic terrorists folks. Every last one. Because they've all chosen to support it despite knowing. Time to start treating them like the terrorists they are.
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What I'm reading is that the guy with a rifle, Gamboa, has attended protests armed before. It looks like the peacekeeper thought he was a shooter, but there's no evidence so far Gamboa did anything illegal.
It looks like the peacekeeper thought he was a shooter
As he should.
Brandish a firearm in public, you are attempting to intimidate others, so you'll get treated like the terrorist you are.
Isn't this what the NRA wants? Sounds like a good guy with a gun stopped a potential mass shooting.
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That's not the law, or reality in America. It's a regular occurrence at certain protests for people to open carry weapons. Not saying I would do it, but it's not sufficient cause to shoot someone.
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Exactly. The peacekeeper who shot into the crowd should be charged instead.
I dunno about that. The peacekeeper saw the dude go retrieve a rifle, confronted him, and he ran aiming the rifle at the crowd.
I suppose your argument is that the guy hadn't actually pulled the trigger when the peacekeeper acted? That seems insane to me.
The shooter and another person in a neon vest allegedly saw Gamboa separate from the crowd of marchers in downtown Salt Lake City, move behind a wall and withdraw a rifle around 8 p.m., Redd said.
When the two men in vests confronted Gamboa with their handguns drawn, witnesses said Gamboa raised his rifle into a firing position and ran toward the crowd, said Redd.
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That is what I'm thinking. At first I went along with the speculation that Gamboa was intending to shoot into the crowd. But after reviewing the video, it looks more like he was just walking and open carrying with the rifle pointed down. It might not have been the best move in hindsight, but he had the legal right to do so.
Also after listening to his Slugmag interview I'm just not seeing the motivation for a mass shooting. Unless maybe he intended to shoot cops or something. He just doesn't seem to fit the profile & ideology of a mass shooter.
Edit: the interview if anyone is curious https://www.slugmag.com/soundwaves/episode-364-rade/
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Maybe guns are bad, and maybe if you bring a rifle to a high tense situation and hold it in any manner that may seem threatening, you deserve to get shot. Super sad that an innocent died. Had the "good guy" with a gun hit the target only, then at least there would only be one less moron carrying an AR-15 today, not a sad casualty.
Yup. If you brandish a firearm in public, you are clearly trying to intimidate others. You deserve to be shot down.
Does this apply to the people that open carry AR-15s when they go to McDonalds?
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I can't tell if there's a /s missing there or not, but if there is, this person allegedly pointed the gun into a crowd and advanced showing intent. I would also agree that even in jest, if you brandish, you are signalling intent and immediately forfeit your right to life.
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As always, ACAB.
Sounds like the cops are in the right here...
Gamboa was the idiot who pulled his rifle on a crowd of peaceful protestors.
The protestors, being smart, had peacekeepers who were defensively carrying.
One of the peacekeepers shot at Gamboa, and ended up hitting Ah Loo, who was (apparently) an innocent bystander.
Gamboa broke the cardinal rule of carrying a gun: don't point it at anything that you aren't planning to kill. Defensive peacekeeper took the appropriate action in disarming a very valid threat (especially considering the actions that MAGAts had been taking on protestors lately). Cops arrested Gamboa.
I've got sympathy for Ah Loo (and the peacekeeper that shot him)...but that death is on Gamboa. That's felony homicide right there. FAFO, Gamboa.
Why bring up ACAB in this situation? The police were not involved in either side of the shooting. Per the article’s description the rifleman pulled out a rifle and appeared to be readying to fire before a protest peacekeeper (not police) shot and injured him using a handgun. Unfortunately in the cross fire one protester was killed by the peacekeeper but it looks like this prevented a potential mass shooting event.
Unfortunately in the cross fire one protester was killed by the peacekeeper but it looks like this prevented a potential mass shooting event.
No. Some idiot larper fired into a crowd and then hit and killed the wrong person. He's the one that should be in custody.
honestly, it reads more like the man with the rifle pointed into a crowd and started advancing towards them. literally protecting others is not larper behavior. a larper would incorrectly identify the time and place, but it's not as though the shooting here was unjustified; an immediate threat to multiple lives was present. now, should the peacekeeper be the one to hold a gun? it doesn't seem like it. i am confused as to why they are not being pursued for charges but whatever, the system doesn't make sense to me anyway.
The guy had an AR-15 so could have just started spraying the crowd ... but he didn't.
The second part of that is assuming that those who saw him separate from the crowd 'knew' what he was going to do. They didn't. They may have suspected something was up so could have followed him or called police instead of shooting into a crowd and murdering an innocent bystander ... which is what the shooter was supposedly trying to avoid.
Did you miss the part where they confronted him and he raised his gun and charged at the crowd?
You should also brush up on the definition of murder.
That narrative doesn't really match with the video I saw at all. The protectors are across a street from him and pointing their weapons at him. They were far enough away that he may not have even been able to know they were talking to him. He is walking towards the crowd (and in range to shoot at them without getting closer if he was intending to do so) but is not pointing his rifle at them or holding it in a threatening manner. The video cut out as soon as he started running and I couldn't tell from it when the shooting actually started. But it's conceivable that he started running because he was shot. I'm not saying he didn't have malicious intentions but it's certainly not a cut and dry situation based off the evidence available.
Edit: heres the link to what I saw - https://imgur.com/a/z3J25EB
No, I saw that. Thing is he didn't shoot. They did ... into a crowd.
So who did the right thing here? The guy who didn't shoot or the guy who shot into a crowd?
So who did the right thing here?
The guy that tried to pre-emptively deal with a dumbfuck that brought a firearm to a public space to intimidate people who hold different political views than him.
You're making excuses for the person who initiated the problem, because you're massively pathetic.
Open carry is legal in Utah and several gun safety and advocacy groups are present and in support at every protest in salt lake, I’ve seen this guy before and have never felt threatened with him and his guns in the vicinity. Gamboa was allowed to have a gun, he had every legal right, the the guy who shot him specifically was told that he was to not be carrying a weapon.
You're buying into a propaganda narrative.
Watch the video.
You don't raise a gun and point it at people unless you intend to shoot it at them.
Should the peacekeeper have waited till he started spraying bullets until he fired on an obvious threat?
Maybe he should've waited until a few people got shot first. Or waited until there was at least a confirmed kill?
Should he have called 911 and said "officer there is a man here drawing an AR-15 on the crowd please hurry before he shoots somebody" and wait 15 minutes for the cop to arrive?
Like...I don't know what you expect here. If there's one time when it's acceptable to shoot first, it's when somebody already has a gun pointing at you.
This whole thing is a shining example of "good guy with a gun". It's the second-best possible outcome, only being better if Ah Soo weren't struck in the crossfire. .
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