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Todd produced something that's actually good‽

I've watched the first two episodes and I've really liked it so far. While FO4 as a game was OK at best (at least vanilla; Sim Settlements 2 is great fun), I've liked the art direction on it. I know the "chunky" look has been a bit… divisive, I think it looks suitably retrofuturistic and less drab than the earlier games, so it's fun that the show has really leaned into the style. The score by Ramin Djawadi is also really good, at times really reminds me of Ben Frost's and Marc Streitenfeld fucking amazing score for Raised by Wolves.

The dark humor and a somewhat quirky and sarcastic take on things is also very Fallout; it doesn't take itself too seriously, but is also surprisingly dark in many ways, and not just because it's postapocalyptic and bloody.

spoilers for first 3 epsThings like what Maximus did to whatstheirname, with the razor in the boot, and then what happened between him and Titus after the yao guai attack. It's like everybody's at least a little bit of an asshole and that there's not too many if any unambiguously "good" characters in the main cast.

Edit: did that axolotl-looking huge mutant with fingers coming out of its mouth drop loot when it died‽

All in all, it's been a really nice surprise that the show seems to have turned out well; my cynical old ass was definitely prepared for something worse, heh. How have you folks liked it?

(Oh and for the love of the gods and all that is fuzzy, please remember to use spoiler tags if you talk about plot points 😁 It's the second button on the right on the comment format bar.)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

The pacing of Maximus part is so boring. I am honestly hoping it gets better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@hydroptic Maximus did nothing wrong 😆

..or everything. It really depends on the point of view I guess 🤔

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Weeelll, not everything, but not nothing either 😁

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Only on first episode but also very pleasantly surprised. I expect very little from Amazon and often think of cancelling it but I'm only paying about $4.00 a month so don't end up bothering. This month I'm getting my money's worth.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's weird to me how no one is talking about how it has a strong and blatant anti-capitalist message. Without getting into spoilers, the ending really drives it home. I'm surprised right-wing dickheads aren't screeching about it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Right-wing dickheads definitely are screeching about the show being "woke", though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ew, don't reich-wing tears taste bitter?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

dunno, it's for the flowers 🤷

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Growing some bittercups?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Some good references too, like that poster on the wall in episode 5, 'a man and his dog ',

Todd produced something that’s actually good‽
Probably a mandatory credit thing, he is too busy fixing Starfield

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Todd isn't busy fixing anything. Let's be honest.

There's enough diehard Bethesda fans that will buy anything he shits out. Even F76 has a playerbase now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

They also reference it during Cooper's party and he mentions that they used his actual dog for the "in universe" version of the movie.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

why is everyone praising it? they spent it all on costumes and sets, and forgot to hire an almost decent writer. the script is terrible, it’s full of nonsensical stuff and it feels copypasted from others shows. I really disliked it, and I played all the Fallouts since the 1990’s.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

why is everyone praising it?

I know this may come as a shock, but people can have different opinions on things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is a non answer, did you like the costumes, the acting? Was the script bad the dialogue stilted or plot contrived?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Should be pretty obvious that I've liked it, but here's yet another shocker: nobody's under any obligation to justify why they like something, even if you don't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That's not the point, I never said if I like it or not. Your answer didn't help the other guy Why do you like it? He said why he doesn't. Explaining your point of view may help people enjoy the show.

Your answer is " Just because"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Somebody asking "why is everyone praising it?" isn't looking for "help"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I'm going to jump in here. I've watched 3 episodes.

Some of the dialogue does feel bad, but in my experience it's from the vault dwellers. I think it's intentional.

Goggins playing a smooth af character delivers everything with a smooth confidence. He's a joy to watch.

The other actors do well. The sets and costumes are great. The plot feels very paint by numbers, but that's the era we live in.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

IMO the story is not really worse than the games' writing. Fallout as a universe never really made sense. So for me, it being fun and campy is enough and just what I'd expect of a Fallout show.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"We decided to hire a shit writer in order to recreate the atmosphere of a true Bethesda game"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Give it time.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Good: Nice special effects, nice wardrobes, nice sets, the ludicrous violence fits right in with the universe, and particularly the performances from the actors are very good. At least visually, it looks way better and the effects look way more convincing than 3 Body Problem, to use another recent show as a comparison.

Bad: apparently the show disregards New Vegas lore (personally idk I never played it), I think the editing is super bad, the story is average.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Disregarding established lore is a Bethesda specialty. Shouldn't come as a surprise if the show does it as well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

There's NV hinted at the next season... If they make it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

While it's pretty average as far as action drama shows go, it's very easy watching! Was pleasantly surprised. I think it fails to establish a lot of things, so non-fallout fans might be a little confused sometimes. I think they could have gone a bit slower and properly introduced the wasteland, its people and its factions. Hopefully they increase the prop budget too, there's not a lot of weight to things and you see them actually bend the foam power armor in one shot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So it's actually good? It was looking like low budget camp from the set photos.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

From the looks of the first episode, one thing it's definitely not is low budget. It's well-crafted and probably very expensive. The sex is perfunctory and the violence is lovingly detailed at great length. There are no real surprises, good or bad, in how they've handled things.

Personally I probably would've preferred low-budget and camp, but I imagine it will succeed in achieving the goals that its producers had in mind. I will probably watch some more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

It’s decent. I enjoyed it. I think the more you’ve played the game, the more you’ll enjoy it.

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