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"Muso, a research firm that studies piracy, concluded that the high prices of streaming services like Spotify and Apple Music are pushing people back towards illegal downloads. Spotify raised its prices by one dollar last year to $10.99 a month, the same price as Apple Music. Instead of coughing up $132 a year, more consumers are using websites that rip audio straight out of YouTube videos, and convert them into downloadable MP3 or .wav files.

Roughly 40% of the music piracy Muso tracked was from these “YouTube-to-MP3” sites. The original YouTube-to-MP3 site died from a record label lawsuit, but other copycats do the same thing. A simple Google search yields dozens of blue links to these sites, and they’re, by far, the largest form of audio piracy on the internet."

The problem isn't price. People just don't want to pay for a bad experience. What Apple Music and Spotify have in common is that their software is bloated with useless shit and endlessly annoying user-hostile design. Plus Steve Jobs himself said it back in 2007: "people want to own their music." Having it, organizing it, curating it is half the fun. Not fun is pressing play one day and finding a big chunk of your carefully constructed playlist is "no longer in your library." Screw that.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you saying OP? You don't want video and paid, exclusive podcasts on your streaming service? /s

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The apps is definitely a part of it for me. One if my friends got YouTube Premium, and since he has 3 profiles he can attach to it, hrs letting me use it. It's nice for the ad free videos on my TV. But it also comes with YouTube Music. It's honestly kind of annoying at times.

Like yesterday I wanted to listen to an album by a band, and they only have like 2 of 3 albums. The one I wanted to listen to is the one they didn't have. So I had to make a Playlist by finding videos of the songs.

And thats for a band that's not super underground. I listen to a lot of grindcore and black metal, and a lot of that isn't even on there.

And when you download things, you can only have it organized by albums. I can't organize it by band and then have all the albums.

It's also sometimes slow to load up stuff I've downloaded.

Over all its not the greatest experience. I'm currently looking at getting a mobile game device for my emulators so I can free up space on my phone, and then I'm thinking about just going back to having all the music on files on there and using an music player app. And like you said, I can have it organized how I want and customize things a bit more. Especially since I no longer have Comcast, so I can use Soulseek again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It's a whole torrent of alternatives, that's for sure.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Just a small tip with yt music if you are not aware, you can upload your own mp3s (50k files iirc). It's the main reason I use it since so much dnb is missing from all the streaming platforms.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's taken longer than I expected, but more and more people are realising streaming services as a model are not good, by any measure.

They cost more in the long run, you are made powerless as a consumer (perpetually increasing costs and removing your favourite content), and you can't even get 'everything at the convenience of your fingertips' cause the market is fragmented and they remove things periodically. You own nothing and pay more. Absolutely stupid model that deserves to die.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm surprised everyone didn't realize it right from the beginning before things got to this point. Better late then never, I - suppose.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"The problem isn't price. People just don't want to pay for a bad experience."

The experience using a paid service is way better than pirating, let's be honest here. The problem for some people is price.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For music, I think yes. For other forms of media, not so much.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Music is getting worse though. Spotify is bloating all searches with stuff you don't want. The "Artist top songs" is rarely the most popular songs and is limited to 10 song. In the beginning you could list all the songs from an artist and sort it on "Plays".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Spotify needs to connect to network to play songs, and there is no option to not play on metered network. So I sometime would play songs that Spotify mysteriously deleted from downloads, and lose a month of data.

Now, I mostly get my music from bandcamp and only listen to couple classical album on spotify, since there is no good place to buy them.

The day that Spotify pull a Netflix on their family plan is the day I leave Spotify.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not fun is pressing play one day and finding a big chunk of your carefully constructed playlist is "no longer in your library."

this is exceptionally true from my experience with Spotify. I had downloaded a playlist that had a specific song. One day I went to play my locally downloaded playlist only to glance over it and see that the song was unavailable. I had the song downloaded. In my device and it still removed the song. No warnings, no nothing. Ever since, I downloaded everything locally and completely ditched Spotify. Fuck this scummy behaviour

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I get your anger, but if they no longer have the license to play the song, they cannot allow you to play it, even if the file is on your device. I don't find it scummy in the least. You didn't own the file, you were renting it from Spotify.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

Whatever you say lawyer, now he's a pirate, nobody cares about the technicality.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, I get what you are saying, but then it's imho dishonest Marketing, and the user expected something different when they signed up for the paid service. I think "renting" movies, tv shows or music is not something the user expects.

If they would advertise it as "pay us 20 Dollarinos a month, and you can listen to your favorite music for as long as we allow it and don't take it away from you!" they surely would never be popular...

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