Maybe they should start sharing some words with Hamas about releasing the hostages and surrendering so that the war can end.
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We need to stop paying attention to what the Biden government says, and pay absolute attention to what they do! They're speaking out of both sides of their mouth, FFS!
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If you're an American it seems like your choices really are between Biden and his slow genocide or Trump with his quick one.
It doesn't seem like you can really rely on your political leaders to help resolve this conflict in a way that doesn't lead to more suffering and death, only the pace at which it happens. If those are the only two options, I don't blame Muslim and Arab Americans for giving up on Biden.
I think it would just be more honest to acknowledge there's no real support amongst any American political leadership to minimise the suffering of either the Palestinian or Israeli people.
What suffering of the Israelis? They're partying and listening to shitty techno music and getting showered in free American money and weapons.
Palestinians are living in tents and starving. They'd love to be subjected to America's treatment of Israel.
Both Palestinians and Israelis see each other as existential threats. Ignoring this basic reality means there will always be conflict in the region.
Palestinians are suffering en masse right now, I don't think anyone reasonable is denying that.
But what do you think happens if the underlying, justifiable, fear that they each have of the isn't addressed? There will be more massacres and more war, and like in every war, innocent people will pay the price.
Israelis massive victim complex juxtaposed with then acting like Nazi's doesn't somehow make both sides equal.
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It doesn’t matter whether Trump or Biden is President to stop the war in Gaza, what matters is that Netanyahu isn’t Prime Minister
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some Muslims warning they are unwilling to support Biden even it that risks returning Donald Trump
Yep, these people are fucking morons.
Yeah, they're morons for refusing to vote for a guy killing their friends and families. Maybe you should work harder to move the Dems away from supporting genocide.
They're not voting for Trump either. They're exercising their democratic rights. Biden should earn their votes, not be entitled to it because one guy is less overt about doing genocide.
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I get your point of view because the alternative is surely worse, but from their point of view, their people and for some their own families are the ones who are dying.
it's not a kind of cut off one's nose to spite one's face fucking morons. If they don't do that, they'll be played around over and over again. If they'll do that, it will be a lesson not to trivialise their importance. When Trump is back it can be worse but now the sentiment around the world is changing, which can help to control Trump which which will deem him to be at the same level with Bibi which will leave him isolated, which is good. So, it's not moronic but a rather calculated risk.
Yeah sure, Trump will surely be controlled
Just like Franz von Papen ensured Hitler could be easily controlled once Hitler was in a position of power:
"In two months, we will have pushed Hitler so far into a corner, he squeaks!"
- January, 1933
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We don't get good support from this one guy, so we want to make it so the guy who promises to fuck you over gets elected.
More like if we burn you burn with us
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" some Muslims warning they are unwilling to support Biden even it that risks returning Donald Trump" ...who will be eager to urge Israel to "finish" the job".
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