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For example, I'm using Debian, and I think we could learn a thing or two from Mint about how to make it "friendlier" for new users. I often see Mint recommended to new users, but rarely Debian, which has a goal to be "the universal operating system".
I also think we could learn website design from.. looks at notes ..everyone else.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If you want Debian but user-friendly, just use Mint, Debian is easy enough to install. It's like asking Gentoo or Arch to drop a easy installer, it would break the point of using it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Would it detract from Debian if it had an installer which was more intuitive to new users? As long as they don't remove the options to configure, I see no harm, only benefits. To me, the thing about Debian is that it's a community. If a distro wants to be elitistic, sure, that's up to them, but I don't see Debian having that goal.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fedora's installer is abysmal. There's a number of installers it could learn from. They're working on one at the moment, so I hope it's good.

Enabling access to proprietary software should also install audio/video codecs. Or at least have a separate checkbox for it, like (I believe) Ubuntu has.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Fortunately many flatpak browser now comes with codecs, like ungoogled chromium and librewolf.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fedora’s installer is abysmal.

I thought so too. It doesn't have enough options for power users and too many for newcomers. It caters to a middleground that barely exists.

Enabling access to proprietary software should also install audio/video codecs.

The codecs are also the #1 thing that annoy me in Fedora. Because of shitty US patent laws the rest of the world has to suffer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why won't they just use Calamares?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm on Fedora Silverblue, which is great now, but when I installed it, I remember thinking that its installer was way less intuitive than Ubuntu's, and I think it also had fewer features (e.g. discovering existing operating systems and offering to install alongside it, IIRC?). I've seen screenshots of a new installer being in development, which looked like an improvement, but still not as smooth an experience as Ubuntu's.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think more distros should have an easy way to set up disk level encryption in the installation

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And know how to use an existing btrfs partition. And always [at least have an option to] show exactly what the automatic installer is going to do before I run anything. There's gotta be a middle ground between "we'll just surprise you" and "here, do everything yourself".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

OpenSUSE has a guided setup if you dont want a surprise or don't know what manual setups requires. then prior to starting givea you a summary of what will be done.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great, there we go, sounds like all distros should learn from OpenSUSE.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I switched my daily driver to Linux Mint Debian Edition recently and it definitely does combine the best of both. It's easy to use and coming from plain debian has everything that I'm used to. Been loving it so far.

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