BOEING DON'T MAKE ENGINES.
But sure. Pile on.
this post was submitted on 07 Apr 2024
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They might not make the engines, but they are responsible with certification and checkups.
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I remember this episode of "The Twilight Zone"
Here comes a series of DFEAs related to the scotch tape that holds that part of the engine. I hope they figure out what the problem is with the scotch tape.
Looks at post title and wonders if Boeing
Opens article
Is Boeing
Southwest Airlines uses Boeing aircraft exclusively. Lucky me gets to try my luck in two weeks. 🙄
Thousands of Boeing flights happen every day. Statistically, you'll be fine.
Everybody who has ever died in a plane crash was also, statistically, going to be fine.
That's not how statistics works.
Just because you win the lottery, that doesn't mean it was bound to happen. It's the same with bad luck. Your tile floor in the bathroom is literally more dangerous than an airplane. Do you steel yourself to confront death when you step out of the shower?
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Until you aren't.
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I mean half are boeing and half are airbus. We aren't exactly swimming in large airplane manufacturers.
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The article doesn't say "bomb jolt" it says "bump, jolt." In case no one actually reads the article.
Updated post title!
Thanks!
Thank you, luckily Lemmy let's you edit titles @[email protected]
lets* you edit
I read this as "lets* you idiot" and thought gee, the grammar police is getting increasingly hostile
dammit
Lemmy lets you edit comments, too!
(I hate autocorrect sometimes...I don't know why mine keeps changing lets to let's and other similar things...)
Mine is bad because I rely on my generally good swipe typing more than I should. But if others notice and comment before I do I just let it be.
Let's edit some titles
Oh hey look it’s a Boeing plane again.
It has been said a lot these last few months, but it is worth repeating untill Boeing stops dicking around...
"It is Boeing, I ain't going"
What other options are there for domestic US flights?
https://simpleflying.com/ten-busiest-domestic-us-airbus-a321neo-routes/
Plenty.
Then you guys also have sleeper trains in some regions, not at the same level as here in Europe, but they exist and are a decent alternative to flying on the routes.
They're not decent alternatives. They're much slower, more expensive, and go far fewer places. I would love to take a train instead of flying.
Airbus
The story doesn’t mention the age or variant of the plane, but there’s a good chance this is an issue with Southwest maintenance, not Boeing (or their subcontractors) construction.
Some quick googling got me the details.
- The article mentions the flight number.
- Since I didn't know the airline code of Southweast, I googled Southwest and the flight number.
- Google flights showed me the full flight number.
- Putting that into Flightradar got me a list of the last flights of this flight, one showing a deviation.
- Going in there gave me the registration number of the plane that flew that flight and data about the type of plane.
- Searching FAA registry gave me all details of the plane.
It is a Boeing 737-8H4, delivered in 2015, so an alomst decade old plane, meaning it was probably an issue with maintenance this time.
Doesn't mean I would fly a Boeing plane untill the stop dicking around.
How would they stop dicking around with a plane sold to Southwest 9 years ago?
They wouldn’t but then people ragging on Boeing are also correct. So.
Shall we all wait for the next disaster? Keep scrolling to find out!
Hey what was that union that Reagan destroyed to avoid paying them? I forget.
You are aware of the other recent high profile accidents with Boeing planes and the issues with Boeing mgmt?
This incident may not be related, but based on the other issues I remain steady in my resolve that if it is Boeing I ain't going.
Untill the focus of Boeing shifts from it's share value and back to engineering, I will be very careful about getting on a Boeing flight.
I'm aware of a number of airlines experiencing random mechanical issues on Boeing aircraft they've owned for years. And 1 issue that was a new plane which is still under investigation and likely was Boeing's fault
I and my team of about 25 engineers travel for work constantly. Weird mechanical issues happen way more than the public realizes. Saying all of it has been Boeing's fault is factually incorrect.
What kind of random mechanical stuff like this happens to Airbus or other manufacturers?
Before the pandemic I remember there being software/electrical issues on the 320. More recently it's been engine issues on the 320neo.
You are absolutely right that claiming it is all Boeing's fault is incorrect, I never claimed that it was.
However, since the MD/Boeing merger, Boeing mgmt has acted reckless with safety.
They have pushed the margins of safety too far and we are starting to see the issues now.
I realize that you and your team may not have a lot of choice about what plane you can fly on, but I have, and I will pick flights based on the plane.
I get it. And I'm probably an oddball with being fascinated about flying even before I started traveling for work. Now it's something I do for fun to track planes I'll be on.
So to me the only thing that's changed recently is the news getting clicks running any story they can about Boeing. They could have been for years if they wanted to. But it's one of the current hot topics now.
And even now the news should be shitting on the airlines directly much moreso than Boeing. All issues I've heard of since the door blowout would have been a maintenance problem. Especially United. It seems like those fuckers in particular have cut corners. I avoid them in general when booking regardless of plane type.
It's also important to try to avoid jumping to conclusions without the facts. If this is a new 737 and there's a manufacturing issue, then rake Boeing over the coals. They do have problems. But if this is an older plane that had either maintenance issues, then go after Southwest first unless it's a Boeing responsibility. And of course, things do happen beyond anyone's control too, and engines that fail for any reason but don't take out the rest of the aircraft is a bit of a win for design.
Neat. Now compare vs Airbus and see all those different compartments become meaningless.
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It's almost like overworking people in the name of profits gets in the way of safety snd reliability.
They tied bonuses directly to how many planes were delivered. Definitely a good way to promote cutting corners.
Are there examples of economic theories that better value the worker? The only I've ever seen is high unionized social democracies, which are themselves still capitalist in nature
Looking for "economic theories" is already buying into their bullshit. The economic theory championed by major political parties and media networks the world over is neoliberalism. You know, trickle down, self-regulation, free market will fix it, that kind of shit.
None of it works and none of it ever did. Maybe, for a brief moment around Thatcher and Reagan, they genuinely thought it might. These days though, they try neoliberalism over and over again because it doesn't work and they grow richer with every failure. Money didn't trickle down, they just got a tax break. They didn't self regulate, they increased their profits by exploiting foreign workers and literal slaves. The free market didn't fix it, because people were desperately trying to keep their head above water, forcing them to be complicit in the horrors or drown.
You don't need economic theories. You just need regulations to stop businesses doing unethical, exploitative things. Politicians could solve most of the issues facing us today with the stroke of a pen. It's not even complicated policy. "Foreign workers pay and working conditions must meet domestic standards. Failure to do so will result in criminal charges".
You'd see industry return to wealthy countries overnight. Consumers wouldn't be blamed for multi-billion dollar companies using child slaves. Sure, everything would also become more expensive, but that's your bosses problem now. They've been pocketing your wealth for decades, distracting you with cheap junk, subsidised by the misery of foreign workers.
That's why the world over, every election has become "red neoliberal" vs "blue neoliberal". They might pantomime fight over social issues but when it comes to economics, the only disagreement is about whose buddies from school get to be first snout in the trough. Their children are bred for it. The moment a progressive get anywhere near power, watch as these mortal enemies suddenly unite in solidarity to attack them.
Whatever economic theory you find, there will always be greedy sociopaths trying to murder and manipulate their way to the top.
Regulations are part of the economic system we want. An economic theory that has strong regulation as a first class tenet is the one we want
Then it's just what we already have only people don't vote for neoliberals.
Keep in mind they literally do not care until it gets in the way of profit
Hey Karl Marx, preventing needless death isn’t profitable! Enough.
Thank god the wealthy control the courts and government, at least. They’ll keep the lid on this rabble-rousing.
What are you, some kind of socialist?