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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Freedom of Windows" "Power of Xbox" Good stuff. We should make some more. "From a brand you can trust" "Pro gamers choose ... " "Powered by Copilot and Game pass"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well gamepass on a cheap handheld doesn't sound so bad tbh

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

and copilot on a cheap handheld that cannot do anything except record you 24/7 and send it off to MS servers?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Players on either device will be able to tap into Gaming Copilot ...

...yeah

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This got me thinking that Valve is the best competitor to Xbox. Instead of getting to release some walled garden, single store handheld they have to open it up to other stores because otherwise people would just buy a SteamDeck.

But everyone who cares about handheld gaming already has a steam deck and this is going to be more expensive so I don't see the point anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Moar power! More more more more!!!

boots up an indie roguelite

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Oh dear god it is apparently serious.

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2025/06/08/xbox-handheld-rog-ally-x-games-showcase/

Any guesses for MSRP?

$1200 for the X variant?

$600?

Will MSFT bet the farm, take the upfront loss on the unit, and try to convince everyone this is both their next handheld and their next mainline living room console at the same time?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Nah. The ROG Ally X they already make with windows 11 and 1 TB is $800+tax. The ROG Ally that came before it was $700 and currently sells for like $400 or so.

The 2TB Rog Ally X is about $1k + tax. I honestly doubt they can get people to pay more than that for a handheld, regardless of the Z2 chip. They are having trouble selling the ones they currently make. Add to this that Lenovo just launched the steam os variant of their newest handheld and it's significantly cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

From what I saw, it's more or less just a new app that starts when windows boots up. Plus some improvements like "the controller now works in UAC prompts" - which tells me that they didn't really learn anything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

it's more or less just a new app

You know a reason why Linux with Steam runs just way better than win? Because they use game scope, therefore not needing to render and run all of the desktop.

So what does Microsoft do? They release a new app on top of the already bloated desktop.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Gamescope is a compositor. It has many useful gaming features, but it doesn’t have a major performance advantage over desktops like Gnome, KDE, or tilers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The performance advantage comes from the fact that there isn't a full-fat desktop running concurrently with the game. You're booting directly into Steam.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

They thinned the os, ive just watched llt video, the appear to have debloated some of it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Compared to Xbox OS, Windows is very free.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

yea the full sentence makes more sense. "freedom of windows, power of xbox" implies it's trying to compare to previous xbox experience, not other OS.

Although still, never had a console, but I thought a gaming PC is usually more powerful than xbox though. Or I could get mad overthinking of what do they meam by power, what do they mean by freedom. This is why I often dont like marketing speak & just disregard it.