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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I bet you anything that the people behind this were conservatives before 10/7 and are just being opportunistic, well that and all of the Russian, Iranian, Turkish, and Qatari propaganda assisting them.

Edit: I love how any criticism of these protesters gets immediately downvoted, yet you guys criticize supporters of Israel for doing the same thing when they see criticisms of Israel, maybe you guys should realize that you're both not being very objective and that currently you both suck.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago

Did you read the article or even listen to interviews by the protestors? You just dismissed them because you don't like it instead of listening to why they're protesting.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A crowd of Arab Americans protested Wednesday night inside a Dearborn high school against President Joe Biden's scheduled Thursday visit to Michigan, urging people not to vote for him because of his support for Israel's attacks in Gaza.

I get it. It's disgusting that this nation is supporting genocide of Palestinians. They have a right to be angry and I hope this and what everyone else is doing moves the needle for Biden.

But I'll be fucked if I allow Trump back in office. Republicans will waste no time swinging the wrecking ball.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago

It's pretty sad that our only viable options are the guy giving guns to genocidal maniacs and the guy who thinks the genocidal maniacs aren't genociding hard enough.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Wonder if these are the same people that were bitching that Hillary flew over their state...

[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So this group is thinking that Trump will provide greater levels of support to these groups? I kinda remember Trump having a different direction than support for those groups.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

We'd hope people aren't delusional enough to opt for neoFuhrer over Biden's spineless support of Israel on this, but there are too many sound bite voters in today's world, so it's a bit disconcerting.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nothing wrong with wanting Biden to do better. I doubt these people are going to vote for the person that literally banned them from coming here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

If centrists wanted better from democrats, they wouldn't be centrists.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The are only two humans in America and they both want to destroy palestinians. Guess we gotta pick one of the only two humans in America to be in charge.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Not if you live in America, you can write in your vote for anyone you want. But it’s America so the two major parties each nominate one person and then most people choose between those two people and usually one becomes president. Donald Trump and Joe Biden are the current likely nominees from the two major parties. Some people do the write in thing and usually the person they write in is not elected president. It’s not a great system but that’s the one in America for the 2024 election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Presumptive nominees. And theres other parties that will be listed in the general election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter how many other names are listed.

There's no possibility anyone who's not the Republican or Democrat candidate wins. It can't happen.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Its a self fulfilling prophecy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's how the system is set up.

It's legitimately idiotic to vote for someone who isn't the candidate for the two parties with the way the system is set up, so only idiotic people do it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I'd say it's idiotic to support the two party system. People in other countries have managed to setup different systems, so its absolutely possible to do things differently than we currently do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly! Sorry I used the word likely instead of presumptive. As for the other parties, people can vote for their candidates too but like the write ins, they usually don’t win.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

they ~~usually~~ don't win

Sorry, had to make that a bit more accurate. For all those wondering how futile voting for anything other than the two major parties is, these are the ones that did the best https://www.thoughtco.com/most-successful-independent-presidential-candidates-3367561

It basically comes down to: voting independent = voting republican. I'm not saying that's always the case, but it seems to be the trend that voting outside the two major parties is stealing votes from the democrats

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I’m sure they’d much rather have the Sudetenland, but they’ll just have to deal with it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Tracking with recent polling in Michigan. Biden needs to pay attention here. Losing Michigan was one of the things that tanked Hillary, he can't afford to lose them.

Michigan: Trump +5 to +6
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/michigan/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I suspect those numbers had something to do with the sanctions he just dropped on Israeli settlers. Although I'm honestly surprised it's that large of a population to be worth going after. Then again, there's not a lot of undecided to chase in Michigan, so you gotta go where the voters are.