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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I just want an inexpensive commuter that gets ~150 miles per charge. I live in a cold climate and I work about 25 miles away, so I need at least 75 miles range on the coldest days. I also want it to be cheaply repairable, so the battery pack needs to be inexpensive to replace.

Tesla isn't offering that, their battery packs are too hard to service and too expensive. So I'm going to keep driving my hybrid until someone makes something to replace it.

Those Chinese sodium-ion batteries look like the perfect solution. Inexpensive, enough range, and less fire risk. My company says they'll be putting in chargers, so I might be willing to go down a bit on range. If Elon wants my business (he probably doesn't), he needs to make a cheap commuter.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

I wouldn't buy one. good job. elon destroying your brand name.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All their cars are 25000 dollar evs. They just sell them for 4 times that amount.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Whoa, the owner acknowledged that the weather was to blame, not Tesla?!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Dammit, the idea of a Tesla Hatchback could have been good. But no, they had to make that cyberjoke first...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

that's fine, they have the perfect alternative, the cybertruck. /s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (5 children)

All those that claim this market belongs to China, Tesla already has production in China, and can use all the same benefits Chinese companies can. Including government subsidies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

BYD has a level of vertical integration far beyond anyone else in the industry.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Chinese companies aren't buying detestable social media platforms and speedrunning them into the ground.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, they just create them and make them wildly successful so they have a backdoor in everyone's pocket.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Oh so a Tesla

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

No one's talking about that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So long as they keep the Chinese government happy. That's a big lever China has on Musk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

China is probably just happy that Musk is Musk. Dude sows enough discord among the US populace without them even asking. Gift horse and all...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Tesla needs to make a certain substantial profit margin, same problem as Apple's car project. BYD will sell at a loss for years to monopolize like Amazon/Walmart etc.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Outside companies almost never get the same benefits as local ones, that's true even outside of china. Another thing is that china has national interests in chinese carmakers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

You can't beat China on price

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