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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I would never say that iphone users are clueless by default about tech. Many are, just like android users and some act like apple has the most amazing tech, but I wouldn't say that iphone users are generally clueless.

I think there are good and bad reasons to have an iphone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Anyone can have an insightful or idiotic opinion. The OS they use to express it doesn’t matter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Considering I go around telling people to install NixOS, that sounds about right.

Seriously though, Apple stuff is usually 90%* of the way there with how I want my devices to work. I don't miss Android at all honestly, on the desktop it's a lot closer. So much so that when I use my Linux computer, I miss stuff from macOS and when I use my MacBook, I miss stuff from Linux. (I really really wish there was a GNUstep-based Linux desktop on par with KDE. I should get back to messing around with GNUstep, I wanted to look into getting Wayland support fixed, but too many projects.)

* Let's hope the EU gives that another couple % for the iPhone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Why do iphone users still talk like hipsters of yesterdecade

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I'm the only one in my family who has owned iPhones and iPads. I'm also the one that gets asked for tech help.

I've used both Android and iOS extensively so I know my way around both.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Who cares what phone you have. It's just a phone.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I feel like if you paid extra for an iPhone, that says something bad.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s why I only pay the normal price.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

nothing apple ever has a normal price

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I work around a lot of technical people. From software to devops, sys admins to hardware engineers, entry level to exec suite; and I have contacts around the world from my job. It’s a mixed bag as to which phone they all use, and it’s never had any effect on how I view their technical abilities. My personal phone is an iPhone, and my work one is a pixel 7 pro. It’s been that way for over a decade. There are things I like and dislike about both platforms. At the end of the day the “technical” things I do have little, if anything, to do with my phone.

Any personal judgement a stranger makes based on phone, OS, sportsball team, etc really only highlights their own childishness, need for something to lord over others, and propensity towards tribalism. I have no time for that BS.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think tech guys are split on apple because of the different priorities. Apple has a very clean, optimized and seamless OS and ecosystem.

Apple is also objectively extremely anti-consumer as well. No side loading, proprietary software and hardware, ludicrously overpriced hardware, locked down OS, and highly monopolistic. All of these only get stronger the more who use Apple, and so many tech people are turned off by it.

Personally, I am more of the latter. I don't care if my phone is a Nokia 3310 in comparison. I'd rather die standing than live kneeling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

No sideloading? Sure iOS and iPadOS are pretty locked down, but homebrew? Most of the apps on my Mac didn’t come from the App Store.

As for the price, sure they’re expensive, but they last! I have a 2006 mini still kicking around, a 2013 iMac still chugging along… neither still receive updates, but that doesn’t stop me from running some flavor of Linux on them for one reason or another. On that front, Apple has pissed me off a bit, though. The first Mac I used was a G4 that got software updates for right around 10-years. The mini I have got about the same. The iMac got 8 years, IIRC. That made me mad.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yep. I use either and both. They are both phones that work well and have annoying issues.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Who says that? Seems kind of silly to put some one in a box based on their phone OS preference

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I have an iPhone an a few Linux computers. Where do I stand?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Obviously agree with everyone else here, I just wanted to add a personal tangent. Right before the crypto boon back in 2019-2020, I called that AI was going to be the next big thing and to invest in it. Obviously we’re seeing that, but I honestly think we probably only have about another year and a half to 2 of the AI gravy train before it does a dot com burst, and people realize it’s true value. It got so overinflated so fast people will eventually realize it’s just pattern recognition and matching and it can’t solve everything, then it will die down.

The next one that will come is quantum computing in about 6-7 years. Not because it can “compute better than regular computers” but because quantum is able to spit out approximations so much faster than regular computers, it will have a huge boon in cloud based physics rendering, and large dataset analysis.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 months ago

Oh, we are back at being jerks to each other because of phone. Lovely.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

So I originally bought one due do family circumstances. A family member was in a heavily HEAVILY censored part of the world- the type of place that you can’t get emails or text messages out of. The type of place where any communication sent over their network WAS being monitored, so you had to speak very carefully.

iMessage was the only 100% reliable method of contact, so I got an iPhone and just haven’t upgraded since.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

For context I use all of these daily: Linux (servers + handheld gaming), Windows (gaming), Mac OS (work & general purpose). I used one of the first iPhones around 2008, then exclusively Android for 10 years, and then back to iPhones.

Iphone users of Lemmy, people say not to trust you on tech insights.

IMO, these "people" with such takes are the only ones who shouldn't be trusted on tech insights here :P

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

If all your friends have an apple phone it's easy to buy one too. They have some features that makes having an android in an apple friend group quite anoying. For example the classic: "I'm going to air drop you the picture." And then only after every apple user in the room has got the picture they think about sending it the classic way to the outsider. It doesn't sound like much, but it doesn't just happen with air drop, but with a lot of those features. Source: I'm the android guy in an apple friend group.

They all are far from techy.. I think it's wrong to generalize, but I think if you don't know shit it's easier to go with apple. Android usualy is far more customizable, but some people just don't care and want a phone that just works. And for those apple can be the right option, because in general it's easier to understand at a first glance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yep, I don’t give a shit about AirDrop or even use the ecosystem. Just iPhone and AirPods.

iPhone because I am a discerning consumer whose current life needs fit it better. AirPods because they are best in class for iPhones (yes due to anti consumer policies). In college sure I customized the heck out of my androids.

Now I just want something that runs fast and reliably browses the internet. AdGuard takes care of the rest.

I used to buy proper Samsung/LG flagship Androids and absolutely loved them for my needs at the time. But every single one went to complete shit after 2 years. Huge battery drain, slow and unresponsive, no updates.

My iPhone is 3.5 years old, still blazing fast, battery drain consistent with degradation, still getting updates, still no need to get a new phone.

This entire debate is literally the bell curve soyjack meme lmao but I had fun typing at least!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You should try LocalSend as an alternative to Airdrop with your Iphone friends!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Doesn’t that only work if everyone is connected to the same WiFi?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ngl I don’t think I’ve ever used airdrop in the last 5 years other than trying to use it once or twice during covid, people weren’t showing up though no matter what my settings were so idk what happened.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah I've seen family and friends struggle with airdrop, there are always 1 or 2 it doesn't work for so they might as well be Android.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Propertiary software esp iMessage and other apps I rely on atm, has kinda prevented me from moving to fully android. I have started to use Linux on my laptop permanently though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But are you using Arch tho?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Nah even better! Linux from Scratch bruh >:3

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