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The tables on the road were only there for the inauguration day, but bike lane is here to stay.

https://www.lavoixdunord.fr/1596032/article/2025-06-14/lomme-apaise-securise-et-cyclable-le-bourg-renove-prefigure-l-avenue-de

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (26 children)

Lady in pink would be killed if she came to Amsterdam

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I thought you were replying to the comment on top

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I like everything except the road-style bidirectional bike lane. They should split the directions of the bike lane. Head on collisions are very bad. Splitting the lanes makes those essentially impossible. It also makes it much easier for pedestrians to cross since they only need to deal with one direction of traffic at a time.

Just put that plant boulevard between the directions of the bike lane and create pedestrian islands to stand on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Also make accessing the shop on the other side possible without riding on the road, this kind of layout mean you're forced to ride on the road for the whole stretch if you using a bakfiet.

But either way, it's a one step forward.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My hard line opinion is that roads are dead spaces. There is no opportunity for anything to grow or flourish; this includes things like community. More roads = more dead space.

If you want to activate a space, i.e. bring community back, reduce road space. And, of course, with reduced road space you need to counter balance with better infrastructure for other modes of transport to get people moving to and from.

Basic town planning! Looking at you... Local council...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't look up parking lot rules in america, dead space like it's going out of style just so crowds can shop on black Friday and Christmas.

https://youtu.be/OUNXFHpUhu8

https://youtu.be/IgA4FJWIjI8

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ohoho... I have seen those rules and having visited both California and Texas last year, I can safely say that I don't want any of that where I live. California was marginally better than Texas though but not by much.

It was insane to me that it was a 3hr public bus ride to NASA, and that included a 20 minute walk from where the bus drops you off.

...And those Stepford Wives-like suburban hellscapes with nothing but roads and freeways for miles.

Madness.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Get off the bike path grandma

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

In my experience cycling in London, it wouldn't be a bike lane without some doofus walking on it 😅

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

We do a pedestrian mall in our downtown district from June to September. I absolutely love it and it has been a huge driver of local business. I would love to see some of our streets become pedestrian only but that would also mean my town acknowledging that pedestrians deserve a path at all in the winter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The curb in the middle is totally unfriendly to disabled people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

It looks like there is a cut over built into the curb that you can see in the picture right above the head of the person in the blue shirt

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I'm really not a fan of these "Bike lane and pavement are not the same hight and the kerb is a wedge so can't see it very well". We have them at se places where I live (and sometimes pavement and bikelane are the same height to make it even more confusing) and I've seen multiple cyclists (and pedestrians) having accidents because they did not realize there was a difference in height.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't honestly believe that some people would rather have the hellscape in the top photo, rather than the paradise in the lower one.

Communities, and society as a whole, need more of the "after", please!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Paradise is a stretch. Paradise to a non-cyclist like me would be a robust tram system with cheap monthly pass. This looks nicer I agree, but if you're not a cyclist you're still driving.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That bitch just walkin' in the bike lane.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can understand.
We have some new dedicated cycle lanes in our city (I mean, they are a few years old now. But fairly unique in our country).
I feel bad for the cyclists. They have a dedicated path, which pedestrians are super ignorant of (they are better marked than this picture).
My parents think they are a menace when they visit, because they are unaware of them and get menaced by cyclists.
Except, that's literally what roads are. They just grew up with roads and (even faster) cars.

So, I am understanding of the transition.
And everyone needs to call everyone out over it. It will make everyone safer

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I got pretty heated after an event bicycling home. Pedestrians all ignorant walking on the bike lane. That was fine so long as they moved but someone yelled at me and I very angrily yelled back.

People criticize cyclists in the road, they'd criticize you riding on the sidewalk (rightly so), but when we have a dedicated bike lane they walk all over it and act like you're the asshole.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bet there's some kind of psychological trick you can play on cyclists, distracting them with pictures of people walking in bicycle paths.

Everyone else in that scene could be raw-fucking mid-sized Gumby sex dolls and I'd still be like "Get out the damn bike lane!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

I think many cyclists refuse to acknowledge how much they carry over from car brains. Minor inconveniences should be common and expected. Some bikers react to someone jogging on a bike path as if their life were threatened. Save the anger for legitimately dangerous situations like sprinting into the lane without looking or excessive speed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

When I'm riding a bike fast and someone's in the path, I have to brake, and then get back up to speed after them. In a car that's just pressing a pedal, but on a bike it takes work. It makes me sweat and huff. Making me sweat and huff is mean.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Non shared bike paths are set up for everyone's safety. People who ignore that don't just put themselves in an unsafe situation, they do it to everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or... just spitballing here, people could walk on the sidewalk. The one beside the bike lane. For walking.

Sure, inconvenience is a part of life, but common sense tells you not to shit in someone's sink.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Sure, but if you choose to be reactionary rather than understanding you'll often be in the wrong. My city has some new bike paths where it's easy to accidentally wind up walking on the bike paths. We are still in a state where many conflicts are due to infrastructure. Are we trying to build better streets for everyone or are we just gonna shift from cars to cyclists owning the streets? When I bike my first thought after safety is being considerate and understanding, not demanding.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I get your point. People walking in bike lanes are annoying but they're honestly the least of my problems while cycling in the city. And 90% of the time the crappy infrastructure is at fault. I've unintentionally walked in bike lanes before as well. It happens, people can be inattentive and make mistakes - I'd much rather have them make mistakes as pedestrians than as drivers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The entire reason for doing things like this, is that everyone gets their own space for traveling. Cars have their space, bikes have their space and pedestrians have their space. In countries where this kind of city planning is a thing, people rely on their mode of transportation to get from a to b in time. If there's some dick blocking the bicycle lane, then it is more than an inconvenience.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

We are trying to build a better infrastructure, where pedestrians enjoy safe and pleasant walk, cyclist enjoy safe and pleasant ride, commuters do commute, etc. In order to achieve that, it's important that the spaces are predictable. If you're in a shared space, you expect a bicycle, if you're in a pedestrian area you shouldn't be on a lookout for fast things. Same goes the other way, if you're on a bike in a shared space, you should expect pedestrians be everywhere and should always be on a lookout, but if you're riding a designated bike road, you should be able to enjoy the ride, not crawling with pedestrian speed dodging around.
If this rule doesn't work, the infrastructure doesn't work. You can't expect people using cycling infrastructure for commute if they can't be sure infrastructure is usable, so they wouldn't, so everyone is riding cars and we're back to square one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, my comment about a Gumby orgy was a serious, reactionary statement about people walking in bike lanes. And somehow an argument for giving cyclists priority on all streets when cars are no more. And a disregard for poor infrastructure.

People should walk where it's safe to walk. Sometimes they don't, which is less safe. There should be safe places for people to walk.

I'm still gonna yell at people who walk in the damn bike lane.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

People should walk where it's safe to walk.

Not everyone's experience is the same. We live off a shared use paved trail that runs for 5.8 miles through our city. It's part of the 600 mile U.S. Bicycle Route (USBR) 45/45A and it's not safe to walk because of cyclists.

Cyclists regularly come from the rear at high speeds without announcing their presence. Often while people are walking their dogs on the part of the path that deviates through the park and along the river.

The world would be a nicer place if people showed a little more tolerance and patience toward each other.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

If something I wrote is upsetting when taken out of context, you might want to put it back in. World might be a nicer place.

"There should be safe places for people to walk."

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Look at all the foot traffic for the shops. I have no idea why shops complain about this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A study in my hometown found that shopkeepers are mostly concerned about their own commute, not decrease of patrons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's interesting.

If I was a shopkeeper I would care more about my profits more than if I can park near my shop.

But I guess deliveries would also be more difficult... still I would care more about foot traffic.

I appreciate the info.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Hell, with a bike path in front of me, I'd bike myself to work. Why bother with a car if I have the infra right on my doorsteps

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