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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

It may seem like a crafty dodge, but her inability to recall will end with a motion for summary judgement because there will be no dispute to the facts she has "forgotten."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Not remembering something is not a valid excuse for corruption when there's verifiable video evidence of it happening.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

She isn't in an orange jumpsuit so what does she have to fear? She knows the system is rigged and is doing the things she was coached to do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Burn the witch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

The banality and misrememberance of evil

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean, 'I don't remember' like 'I do that kinda shit so often I literally don't remember that incident specifically'?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

It's so funny too because cops will come into court 6 months and 800 traffic stops after giving you a ticket and claim to perfectly recall everything that happened during the stop just as long as it all contradicts your defense. The worst part is that judges usually take their testimony as gospel and irrefutable facts while your own testimony isn't seen as truthful because "you're just trying to get out of a ticket."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

"I can't remember."

Judge: "Oh ok then"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

one would remember, if it was an unusual extraordinary moment, but if one does this all the time, the human brain will only remember that this is a thing one does in general.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Prosecutor "So, is your lack of memory just because you do this so often that it has become a sort of muscle memory?"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Well, the camera remembers...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

She's clearly not that smart to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Well, yeah, she's a police officer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If an officer says "I don't remember" to planting drugs on someone (alcohol is a drug), I think the courts should take that as acknowledgement that the drugs were in fact, the officers, and the fact that they don't remember if they planted the drugs or not means, they were probably using said drugs at the time of arrest.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I think it means she planted evidence so often she couldn't keep track.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Well you know, human memory is fallible and all that. Good thing we have this helpful footage to clear things up! I'm sure she'll be relieved when it's entered into the record at trial; as an officer of the law, getting to the facts of the matter is her highest priority, right?

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... That's her highest priority, right?