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    Dual Booters be like (lemmy.ca)
    submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

    Best setup ever:

    1)install Linux on one drive.
    2)install Windows on a second drive.
    3)boot from grub on the first drive and add an entry to boot Windows.
    4)on a 3rd drive format it ext3 or optionally dos. Mount this puppy at /home or even /home/user.
    5)don't let windows touch you Linux home drive ever. Fuck windows and Microsoft. Both can suck my entire ass. If you ever need to share files between these systems use a pen drive. Microsoft doesn't deserve you. Just use it as a last resort, do your thing and GTFO ASAP.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    I used to run Windows on an esata drive that I would only power up occasionally in order to game, and it still somehow -- and I don't remember how -- managed to ruin my computer.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah, isolated home drive is the way to go. You just nuke Linux and windows and restart but your stuff is safe.

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Windows in VM with vitio drivers and guest tools

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    And looking glass for good games performance for those select few titles that otherwise refuse

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    I gave that up decades ago. If i can't do it in Linux, i don't need to do it.

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    [–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Last time I booted into windows it wiped my grub partition. That was the day I decided I didn’t really need windows anymore.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

    img

    [–] [email protected] 96 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

    A gif showing a GRUB boot menu that has had a theme applied to it. The user can choose between a hand holding Tux, or another hand holding the Windows 3.1 logo.
    At least I made it fun for myself and my Windows-using sibling with whom I share a computer with. GRUB themes are cool! Also, I didn't make it myself, you can find the theme here: https://www.pling.com/p/2275254

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

    I didn't even know grub could display images.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Also seems like it would be fun to do with rEFInd

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    What happens on triple or more boot? Is it just a tree?

    "Linux or windows"

    • Linux
      "Ubuntu or other?"
    • other
      "Arch or other"
    • other
      "Void or FreeBSD"
      ...
    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

    Linux was already specified, so no BSD

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

    This is fantastic, I should do this

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

    That is amazing

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    When i still had a dual boot on my main PC, everytime I went into Windows and back into Linux, I'd have to replug my drawing tablet for it to work properly. Even after a complete shutdown. I have no clue what caused that.

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    [–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

    The day I wiped all partitions from my dual boot and started fresh with no windows on the machine was a revelation. My heart sang and my soul wept with joy. Windows lives in a caged state now, a neutered monster I rarely demand dance for me because it is ugly and awkward and on an external drive I don't care about.

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Me booting into windows just to play some gta online

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I still don't understand gta online. For me the whole point of the GTA games was that you could do anything without a single thought because you were the only real person involved. That disappears when you add other people.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    for me it was that i was able to play with friends. i don't have any, but if i did, we would've had some fun with heists.

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    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    So in my dual boot setup Linux messes up the dedicated audio card so bad it not only sounds like ass on Linux but it somehow garbles Windows audio until I power cycle the entire thing. It is entirely possible it does permanent damage to the hardware. Some of the electrical clicks you hear from it are genuinely concerning.

    Had to plug in Linux audio via the motherboard audio and use different sources for each OS to work around it.

    Does change how the meme reads to me.

    Also, maaaan does Linux need to completely redo its audio systems from the ground up. It's so bad that saying that isn't even that controversial, which is insane in these circles.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    That shouldn't be possible as the hardware gets reinitialized on boot

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    You would friggin' think.

    And yet.

    Turns out a DAC is a fairly complicated and self-sufficient bundle of software and hardcore electrical circuitry, so apparently you can mess it up so badly it will remain broken across soft reboots. Who knew!

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    What distro? What sound card?

    You might try something new that runs pipewire by default, if you haven’t already. But I might also know of some specific quirks with specific cards.

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    From the ground up has been done at least once, but given there are multiple layers of interface and driver, it might not be at the right level for whatever hardware you have.

    I'm thinking specifically of how pipewire recently came along and basically took over the functions previously provided by pulseaudio, to the point of pretending to be Pulse where necessary so that things don't break.

    FWIW, I recently learned that my motherboard has features that weren't unlocked by default in my distro. Not related to sound, mind you, but nonetheless, I've gained access to that now. It required loading an extra kernel module. The same might be required to get the best out of your sound card.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

    Nah, it's just not supported. Or rather, it's poorly supported so it sounds worse than in Windows and it just doesn't want to properly dual boot without a power cycle. Honestly, I haven't checked if the soft reboot issue has been reported. Pretty sure it hasn't. I could be nice and go find where to file a bug, but I haven't gotten around to it and, frankly, there are enough other problems with this particular setup that nobody is fixing and are getting dismissed with "it's the manufacturer's fault" that I'm not particularly inclined to go out of my way.

    We don't talk enough about how spotty new motherboard support is for Linux, either. At least sound is a recurring talking point. But yeah, newer motherboards often don't pick up networking and audio hardware out of the box and need a lot of troubleshooting. Everybody is so proud of how well Linux revitalizes old laptops but nobody likes to talk about how that's because they're old, and newer stuff may not work well or at all. Early adopting hardware platforms on Linux can be a "going on an adventure" Hobbit meme experience.

    And you're right that it's not so much about audio getting reingeneered again as it getting done right. I just don't know that the current patchwork barely holding together can be salvaged by bolting more pieces on top. Every time Linux needs to replace something this way it's a years-long argument between nerds and a whole damn mess (see Wayland still being litigated, somehow). Audio never gets enough attention anywhere and I have very low trust that a new attempt wouldn't end up in the same mess they have now, at least for a long while. It extra sucks because Windows audio used to be kinda bad, but now it's... kinda not? So being a dual-booter it's just an extra reason to make that choice of which boot option to pick from the menu.

    [–] [email protected] 91 points 2 weeks ago

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