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[–] [email protected] 81 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I struggled a lot when I lost my faith. I truly believe I’m better off now but I don’t take other people’s spiritual paths lightly. You go to dark places when you haven’t learned how to cope otherwise.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Thats why I don’t do that shit to people.

Who am I to question someone’s spirituality if it makes them happpy and they practice in a healthy way and it doesn’t negatively affect the people around them?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have friends who are full on religious while I'm an atheist, they know I'm not a fan of their religion but they also know that I only care if it's making them happier and helping them, which to be fair has helped them become better people, but they were always the ones that needed some external guidance so I suppose gods a better guide than a meth dealer.

They don't try to convert me and I don't try to convert them and we still have fun, plus I enjoy hearing the weird AF stories from the bible, like the time Jesus got pissed at an out of season fig tree for not having figs when he wanted, so he cursed to for life, hungover entitled shit Jesus has some funny stories.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's a pretty mean angle to take, but why deconvert people by pushing them into a nihilistic crisis?

It's not like atheists think life is meaningless, kindness to be pointless, or the afterlife something to be anxious about.

I've found far less mean-spirited success by explaining how belief isn't necessary for existence to be worthwhile for us. If they can come to understand how happiness is possible for someone who doesn't believe, their own belief suddenly become a lot more optional.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Religion is their Candle in the Dark. It's cruel to blow it out when they don't have another light.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (3 children)

They use that candle to burn your house down. There are better ways to light your path.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Oops, now abortion is illegal and gay people can't marry!

Strong but unfounded beliefs have consequences...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

In my experience, people like that will be terrible with or without religion.

The difference of "external man in the sky" vs "internal concept of my own rightness" for how they feel ok about their own actions doesn't make a difference when they're still a bigoted asshat at their core.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think you missed the bit of the above post that specified that spiritual belief was fine WHEN it's expressed in "a healthy way and it doesn’t negatively affect the people around them" - restricting abortion and marriage prohibitions both are violations of their actual premise.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think they're saying there is no such thing as harmless belief in the unreal.

These people vote, raise children, form relationships and live life in general, interpreting reality with a fundamental distortion. I would agree that it's hard to claim they won't end up harming someone.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (16 children)

Strong but unfounded beliefs have consequences

Considering how many edgelord atheists I've seen uncritically embrace the tenets of white supremacism I'm inclined to agree with you...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yeah we call those Nazis and generally try to distance ourselves from them and call them out when they show themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

Yup.

Sometimes I catch myself thinking that we are more modern than we actually are, that we have already moved past these issues. It’s important to remember that civil rights, feminism, and LGBTQ rights are not topics to be relegated to the history books. They are as alive now as they were in the 60s for today, like yesterday and tomorrow, is a constant fight for our rights.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He said doesn’t negatively impact others

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Erroneously.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it never negatively impacts others until suddenly it does. It's insidious.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 7 months ago

She's crying because she realized that she could buy a second home if she hadn't been foolishly donating to the church all this time.

[–] [email protected] 187 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago

That's pretty funny.

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