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'Unprecedented Mass Deployment' of Warplanes Across Atlantic Fuels Fears of US War on Iran | Common Dreams
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Only idiots are excited about wars.
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commondreams.org is on my PiHole block list for some reason, is it a low quality news source, or some such? It's not a news outlet I've heard of, at least.
Edit: Ah, because it's a shell going to a CDN that scoops up data and such, seemingly.
www.commondreams.org (blocked www.commondreams.org.cdn.rebelmouse.com)
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I'm seeing a lot of posts drumming up war hype and WW3 fears but there is nothing to fight. Iran is already cooked and no one is wants to do a ground invasion of Iran. Iran's allies have abandoned them. This is american security preparing for possible counter attacks and bombing targets, not a full on war. Iran is already at war with Isreal.
Wonder if they are on the way to liberate Greenland?
Ways that could escalate:
- Iran finishes a nuke (or get one from somewhere [or use some other form of WMD]) and the regime decides to go out with a bang
- China using the moment of distraction to try something funny with Taiwan
- A new wave of international terrorism after the regime falls
So, even if that doesn't escalate up to full on WWIII there is enough shit on the horizon to be worried
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If the shit hits the fan, I want too see every single fucking MAGA voter at a US Army recruiting office signing up for 11 Bravo, Grunt Infantry.
Eh, maybe cav scout or something in the 92 family (NOT 92R), we don’t want those asshats walking around with an M4/203 and frags.
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This would have to be the most unpopular war in US history and yet I think everyone Trump has surrounded himself with is telling him to do it.
Vietnam was pretty unpopular tbh.
But was it in the beginning? I’m not old enough to remember what it was like when it started but clearly there was a lot of propaganda. The unpopularity seemed to manifest over time, as there was no goal and people dying over something most americans didn’t care about.
Or at least that’s my impression.
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It is clear that Israel want this war. And they clearly can't do anything without the US and the UK at least. However, they commited insane genocidal attack in Gaza which might have been part of their plans to provoke a reaction that justify a war against Iran.
When that didn't work and Trump made a deal with the Houthis in Yemen without their knowledge and was close to a deal with Iran they pulled the plug and basically put the US government under a situation where the have to join their war sooner or later eventhough it is not a good time for the US to do it.
lets imagine Trump administration just gone. Any other adminstration have a few options:
- play a defensive rule, which cannot last for long as Iran have the means to a long term missile attacks, and Israel being small and there is a few main cities that can be targeted. Along with cost which will run their budgets down.
- stop supporting Israel, which will make their allies nation to reach to China or Russia for guarantee protection and the US will lose its defense credibility.
- forcing a ceasefire, which is impossible and Israel keep violating all their ceasefires. As they would like to the war to happen they will force it through escalation.
Along with the fact that Israel own the Congress, the Senate, and the US administration based on how many officials visit Israel and publicly endorsed by AIPAC, there are literally no other option.
The question now is how to make sure it is a popular war, it seems like they were trying to do it by the 6 day mark but couldn't. The US government has two part, Zionist and MAGA supremacist, and the MAGA supremacist don't want to be controlled by Jewish people and it feel as this is what stopping the US from joining now.
Most likely, they came to the conclusion that they will have to stage a false flag attack on US bases or assets to make it easier for the public to accept this war. This has been publicly stated by AIPAC speakers through out the years before 9/11, where now it feels more like a false flag as Benjamin Netanyahu keep mentioning "New York will be next".
I think Trump is attempting to scare Iran into accepting his nuclear deal. The only problem with this tactic is that Iran might not believe him as they know how deeply unpopular the war would be.
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This might sound insane but every single wartime president has gotten a huge boost to their approval ratings due to media networks circulating pure propaganda nonstop. Even NPR will start doing positive coverage.
Bingo. Plus if it drags on, he can attempt to stay in power because there's a war.
That's basically Bibi's strategy. :(
The consent manufacturing machine will rev up like it always does. There's already attempts to get us on board with a the fantasy of a regime change. As though that won't lead to another ISIS or Libya.
But I really don't think the average liberal boomer is going to fall in line behind Trump like they did Bush. And certainly not anyone younger. Dem leadership is probably already on board though.
I don't know if he's serious about regime change in iran. He seems to negotiate from a raft of threats and lies. Hopefully it's all for show but if the war does go down my guess for approval ratings is over 60%. Not quite Bush I or ii numbers due to decline in news consumption.
I doubt anyone in power is deluded enough to think they can actually reinstate the Shah or something. They probably just want to bomb every piece if infrastructure in Iran and not worry about them for a few decades.
But regime change absolutely is the fantasy they are trying to sell liberals.
the exception was covid, there was a huge downturn in recruitments, and they were getting worried. but military propaganda: top gun maverick helped boost numbers up. also the fact that they loosen some restrictions to join the military too. i was in a forum of people joining, during the obama years, and it was getting tougher to join. its mostly due to medical conditions that prevent people from joining.
It also isn't true. LBJs approval rating absolutely tanked because of the Vietnam war.
Johnson's approval ratings had dropped from 70 percent in mid-1965 to below 40 percent by 1967
https://millercenter.org/president/lbjohnson/foreign-affairs
It was perceived that he was losing the war and lying to the public about the successes that they claimed to have achieved.
But winning wars, even unjust ones, always gets the president brownie points in the eyes of the public and corporations
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I fucking hate this rhetoric which is: OIL! GAS! BUY OIL! BUY GAS! KEEP PUTIN HAPPY! OIL! GAS!
No one was taking the 'war' between Israel and Iran seriously last week after the initial surge in oil price because the USA was like... "yeah, nah". Now, after a quick call from Putin and bam, all this BS about how the US is pandering for war to drive commodity and share prices up when it's a nothingburger.
Remember kids, buy oil, buy gas and do as you're told.
I think RATM had something to say about your last 4 words
Retail traders beg to differ though and are doing as they're told.
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