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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_city

wealthy+nontechie+extrovert+nocar=city middleincome+techie+introvert+car=rural

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Small town. I was born and raised in Toronto/GTA. Moved to a small town during Covid, where my dad was born and raised… Absolutely love it. I do of things I was never able to do (or did) in the city. I can do all of those things alone and without people watching (wonderful, as an introvert).

I do occasionally travel to Toronto for work, and I absolutely despise it. First day, I want to go back home. Too much chaos. Too much traffic. Too much people. I simply don’t know what to do when I’m there and have free time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Small town for sure. I love the outdoors, I love the quiet life, I love the community cohesion, I love pretty little houses and cottages and I love animals. I adore hills and crags and mountains and valleys.

The city itself isn't really my scene. I don't like cars, I don't like shopping centres, I don't like big flashing lights, and loud noises, and I don't like sirens or clubs. I especially don't like loud cars and pollution.

I live in a city now and I just miss the colour green and ponds and lakes and people that smile and say hello. I realise the country isnt perfect and there's still things I'd miss about the city but by far I'd rather live out there than the middle of a city.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I've lived in both, and prefer big cities as long as I'm living in a walkable neighborhood.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Low cost of living city near big city is great

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I wish Buffalo was closer in size to Cleveland or Pittsburg, but being within driving distance of Toronto and to a lesser extent NYC (on top of the aforementioned Cleveland and Pittsburg) is pretty friggin great.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Small town, need woods

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I live 15 minutes outside a small town, 1 hour away from the city.

Love it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I've done both, neither, just kill me now. Unless the small town is near a big city, so I can have cheaper housing but also access to more than a dollar general without driving for an hour.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I already live in a huge city and I like it that way.

There is always something happening, and always a way to get there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Big city that is close to wilderness. Like, a 1 hour drive to leave the city and be in a forest.

I like having my big selection of restaurants, entertainment venues, large hospitals with lots of doctors and specialists, massage therapists/physiotherapists, high speed internet/phone, oddball clubs and sports, and Costco.

I also want to get away from it all easily for a day or two at a time.

I don't want a huge lawn or massive house, that's just extra chores. I'd rather just live in a condo, higher up with a nice view, but it has to be near a park. Let someone else mow the damn lawn. And I like being within walking distance of groceries, movie theaters, and restaurants.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Costco or bust.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

300 k is the sweet spot, but I want to live in the outskirts, small house with a big garden. 15 mn drive from the city or 35 mn walk to the city

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Big city. I feel claustrophobic in small towns.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Country. But I admit I love cities for the "night feel". Small towns are a decent mix.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Small town. Cities are high energy. I like visiting but get worn down by the hustle and bustle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Within 30 minutes of a Costco.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

City.

I want to be able to surround myself with a variety of people and cultures, while also being able to surround myself with the community that makes me feel welcome.

Growing up gay in a rural town that was relatively progressive was still a nightmare, and the town's best feature for me was the commuter train that took me to the closest big city.

I love having access to basically everything relatively easily and I love having a multitude of options for all the things I have access to. Small towns can't provide that.

I also hate yards, though gardens are nice.

So yeah, for me while I have found some small towns I could make work, I would always be giving up things that I value to do so. Big cities are the best, and smaller cities can be good, too, but I'm a city boy through and through.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Big enough to get a Costco.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I think a small city works well enough for me. It's basically the best of both worlds.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Countryside.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

City. Around 100k is the comfortable size.

Not like I require the city's wider array of amenities all that much. I will still be spending 97% of my time at work or at home.

But if I lived in a small town again (born and raised in a town of <8,000), that extra 3% of the time I wanted to go out I'd have to remind myself, "Oh yeah, I live in a dead end town in the middle of nowhere that services none of my personal interests," and that 3% would rapidly become 0%. I'd live fine with that, but eh. Why take a strict net loss when I can simply not?

The walkabiity and community arguments for small towns are complete non-factors for me, seeing as I go basically nowhere and talk to basically no one. And I'm not persuaded by the cost of living argument for small towns, since lower rent would be almost equally counterbalanced by lower salary opportunities.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

100k is a big town, not a city.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not only does the salary go down in small towns but the number of positions are greatly reduced. All it takes is a layoff and that "cheaper" small town could be too expensive because there are no more positions to fill.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

The exception would be high-paid remote work, I guess. But with the reputation that corpos big enough to field those salaries have been recently building, going mask-off with no warning for no reason and asking employees to start filling desks again, I don't know if I'd risk it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

City.

Fewer bigots, fewer people in your business, there's community spaces other than the church, the food is better, and most of all, there's work to be had.

It is a matter of personal preference, but there is a reason most people are migrating into cities right now.

Edit: I was wrong. While most people were migrating to cities for work, that isn't necessarily true anymore nationwide. In my state, it is still happening, but we have a large influx of people from other states.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

More people are moving from City to Rural now actually.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2024/february/net-migration-spurs-renewed-growth-in-rural-areas-of-the-united-states/#:~:text=The%20chart%20below%20shows%20that,locations%20continued%20in%202021%E2%80%9322.

It's not a huge trend but it's surprising nonetheless. Significantly to Extreme COL changes is probably a big reason.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that reason return to office policies though, and the majority of people would happily leave the city life behind if they were not forced to go back?

Appreciate you are answering a question and each one of us has their own preference but not sure you can say most people agree with yours.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So I looked it up, and this isn't true anymore most places.

It used to be, young people flocked to cities both for work and for things to do. It looks to me based on where this is/isn't happening now that the main factor is cost of living.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm confused now, are you saying that the current trend is to move out of cities or to the cities?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Most places, the current trend right now is moving out of cities. In my local area, people are still moving into cities for some reason.

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