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What is the difference between cellular data being used on my phone and cellular data being used on my notebook? Data is data.

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I've read somewhere that USB tethering bypasses this very easily.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does it? Interesting. I'll have to try that. I wonder why?

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[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The difference is one hop. I think that’s how ISP’s measure it anyway. I’ll bet spoofing that number would bypass the restriction.

Or I’m hopelessly out of date.

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[–] LucidDaemon@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you use a VPN it can also mask it too. That's how I used to get around it before moving to Google Fi.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Which is bullshit. Who cares if you download something at full speed on your phone or through the hotpot? A bit is a bit, doesn't matter where it ends up when received by the phone's modem.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s a sneaky way of having a bandwidth cap without having a bandwidth cap. Mobile devices have smaller storage, so you’re less likely to use as much bandwidth compared to a laptop. Also a single device going to use less data than multiple devices sharing a hotspot.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jokes on them, I have a 512GB micrSD card and I use Termux to archive videos through YT-DLP.

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[–] tacostrange@lemmy.ml 298 points 1 year ago (18 children)

This is why we need net neutrality

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago (12 children)
[–] Ioughttamow@kbin.run 80 points 1 year ago

Nationalize the tubes

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[–] Fake4000@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically they don't want you to turn your phone into a mobile router.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well then don't offer unlimited data. Is it unlimited or not?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Definitely not the way they structure it currently

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[–] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

How do they know if the source of data is hotspot? I'd imagine there is a way to stop your phone grassing on you.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Back when they just began recognizing it, they noted peculiar traffic. Desktop websites, batch downloads normally unavailable to that system. This assumes that you utilized the internal hotspot system and didn’t create a separate one. Now? Not sure whether their system is more robust but it should, theoretically, be possible to obfuscate your traffic using third party hotspot software. No clue where to look for that anymore.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 114 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

There's different internal network configs (APNs), and hotspot uses a different one than regular mobile data. ( or at least it used to). Those can be configured and metered separately from the carrier's end.

LineageOS, and maybe some other custom ROMs, wouldn't do that and would put the hotspot and mobile data on the same APN to get around that.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have to turn that feature on.

[–] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Could you install a different OS like suggested here https://dubvee.org/comment/1855949 / by Admiral Patrick below?

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Yeah, installing a new OS on a phone isn't something you do easily like on a PC.

You have to unlock the bootloader, which requires an unlock code from the manufacturer, then you have to factory reset it, and that's even if your phone/carrier allows it. Many don't (which is why it's so hard for me to replace my phone...grrr).

So yeah, installing a new OS on your phone is typically going to require quite a bit of effort and some level of commitment as well as a device that's bootloader unlockable and supported by an alternate OS (each device and model requires a custom build).

It's....a whole thing. It really shouldn't be, but it is :(

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe, but it's not worth it just for a few days, which is all I'll need it for. I just forked over $15 for another 10 gb.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

$15 for 10GB?! USA phone bills are extortionate!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it really sucks, but at least there aren't roaming charges anymore.

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