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What is the difference between cellular data being used on my phone and cellular data being used on my notebook? Data is data.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

yeah they are selling “wireless home internet” hard now, can’t have people using their phone hotspot for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (4 children)

How do they even know if you use your data as a hotspot? That's just ridiculous!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

They look at the TTL of the incoming packets. This can be modified in the windows registry.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Monitoring DNS requests to their own servers.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Makes you wonder what else they know about what you're doing online.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Read permanent record by snowden

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He wrote that 5 years ago (admittedly I have yet to read it), so who knows what they've been able to do since then than he hadn't even thought of.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's still very relevant and one of the most mind blowing things I've ever read

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh I'm sure it's still relevant, I'm saying things have probably gotten even worse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well if you ever read it you'll wonder how it can even get any worse haha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It can always get worse. Any time someone says it can't get any worse, it does.

I was told abortion restrictions couldn't get any worse too. Then they started removing rape exceptions.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Probably local/system services on the app when the SIM is activated (like it's with sim locked phones)

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nope, it’s either inspecting the TTL of packets coming from your phone (unless you have a VERY custom setup, the TTL from devices other than your phone will be very different), or it’s deep packet inspection. I tried to trick t-mobile last year into giving me home internet on a phone sim, so I did a whack ton of research.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did you find a way to avoid detection?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

On US Mobile (Verizon) using a VPN on my phone when tethering seems to bypass detection. At least the meter on the dashboard says I've used 0gb hotspot.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Thank you for putting this into words. Verizon does the same thing to me, I've been on the same plan for four or five years, and I haven't been able to articulate it the way you did. Thank you for explaining what's happening.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I used to root my phone and then could use the hotspot without my provider knowing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

wHy dOeS aNyOnE nEeD rOoT??? - morons replying to me when I tell them rooting our phones is essential to have FULL control over it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

It's because at&t also sells home Internet. If you have unlimited hotspot, then you wouldn't want that sweet sweet DSL or whatever shit Internet ATT sells

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