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What is the difference between cellular data being used on my phone and cellular data being used on my notebook? Data is data.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Try plugging your phone on via the USB instead of a WiFi hotspot. It may not detect it as a hotspot.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Att et al keeps throwing around the word 'unlimited'. I actually had a conversation with Verizon, before I dropped them, and actually used this exact quote to the guy...

He was like, "princess bride. Nice. But, yeah, I have to read the script."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hahaha! A light version of it. I already have a light accent, so I emphasized it some, but I didn't want to offend haha

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Companies even do this if you have a 5g modem.

There is a 2 hour window at the end of the month in which I am miserable.

I'm at the tip of the US's Wang and have zero access to wired internet, so I am stuck. 😞

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I know this is going to sound like an ad. Visible has unlimited 5G, and 5Mbps* hotspot, for $25/mo. It's owned by Verizon.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Worth noting: "Visible includes mobile hotspot with unlimited data at speeds up to 5Mbps."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah if you pay for the $45/plan it’s 10Mbps speed

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Wow, the 5g had me excited there for a moment

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well that's because, ~~fuck you pay me~~ those are special data packets.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ahahaha, are you in marketing?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, I'm far worse. I studied politics in college.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

My condolences.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Plug it in via USB cable, shouldn't register as a hotspot then. At least that's how it works on linux, IDK about other OS.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Carriers in the US configure phones so that the tethering APN is always used for tethering specifically over all interfaces, the traffic is also tagged with a different TTL. They also do some malarkey with deep packet inspection (in case you figure out how to modify the APN) to identify if a computer is using the connection (like the initial phone home Windows and Mac both do to determine the type/quality of Internet connection they are connected to.)

All of this one can work around, but it becomes an annoying game of cat and also cat, and then if the carrier "decides" you violated the "spirit" of their TOS, they'll cancel your plan and take your number away.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is only possible if you get your phone from the carrier, right? They wouldn't be able to differentiate if you were using an unlocked phone you got from Google or Amazon?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

They force configs on unlocked phones as well, or just don't "certify" them and refuse to let them work. AT&T will go the extra step of locking you out of your SIM card until you call them. The other two are pretty passive about it and your phone just doesn't work right until you put the SIM back in a phone they "like".

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's a really weird and very American problem. Our home broadband either doesn't exist or is really expensive in any given market, and tends to have clauses, conditions, etc. Like Comcrap limiting people to 1TB/mon (very easy to burn through quickly by just watching some television programs) unless they pay more for "unlimited". People, as taught by Capitalism, hunt for the best deals. Paying one bill instead of two saves money. Some have light enough home Internet requirements that they don't need expensive home broadband.

Then the companies get pissed that we're doing what we are supposed to do, find the best deal for our needs, so they set up false gates to make sure we follow the path they want us to follow. Then they pay off the regulatory agencies to allow terms like "unlimited" mean not unlimited, 3G HSPA+ being known as 4G. 4G being known as LTE, 4GLTE or 5Ge. 5G being known as 5G, 5G+, 5GUW, 5GUC, (even though, with the exception of T-Mobile in many markets, that 5G will actually be non-standalone and anchored to an LTE packet core, not 5G SA) and all the other damn arbitrary marketing buzzwords. All of which really mean nothing because the 5G spec allows a carrier to flip on the 5G availability flag on a phone even if 5G doesn't exist in your market.

Most of this, AT&T is the biggest perpetrator of by far. Especially the lying about 5G.

The rules are all made up, nothing is real. Time for the arbitrary monthly bill increase for no reason! Pay up, chump!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I still feel like I should be able to sue AT&T for claiming my hotspot is "unlimited," but after 15 gb it drops to double digit kbps. Seems like that's a pretty hard limit

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Especially given:

  • Limited to 15GB
  • Then limited to 128kbps

The 15GB is going to be variable based on the link speed available. If full 5G, that can be erased with 15 speed tests in a few minutes.

From there, it's 128kbps * 3600 (to hours) * 24 (to days) * 30 (to month) = 331,776,000 kilobits -> 41.472GB + the original 15GB -> 56.472GB is the limit each month for "unlimited", roughly. A hard limited number.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

And some douchebag could come in and say "um, actually, it's always going to be limited because the internet speed isn't infinite" as if the 3TB my mobile data is capable of downloading at full speed is at all comparable to the 0.05TB I can get after they rate limit me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yep, lack of broadband in this AirBnB I'm staying in is the only reason I was using it as a hotspot in the first place. The speed here is about the speed they'd throttle it at. I kind of had to fork over the $15 or deal with slow internet one way or the other.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It always blows my mind going to a rental and the rental has no or lacking Internet. Yes, I'm probably on vacation, but it's the future and life requires a few megabits. Years back I made it standard procedure to prep some kind of mobile broadband for my destination (buying a month of prepaid for a hotspot or whatever) fully expecting it to just always suck, it's annoying that this is still a necessary procedure in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately, I didn't pick it. My mother is paying. And when I asked my mother if she looked to see on the AirBnB ad if this place had high speed internet, she said, "other ads did, but this one didn't." Sigh.

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