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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah. Why? Why does everybody believe the whole anti-drug propaganda? They hear "XY takes heroin" and you're through for life. (Serious) I know several functioning "addicts" that essentially self-medicate their mental state. Like I did too for many years. The pills fuck you up much harder & faster. But as long as they earn money from other humans suffering...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Idk, I just hope the Republicans aren't successful at putting a stop to current legalization progress. Fucking fascists. Alcohol kills.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The US tried to ban it and it just led to gangs becoming super powerful because they sold people illegal alcohol.

So it's not really a policy choice like "this is safe enough, this is not safe enough" it's legal because making it illegal doesn't work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

US didn't really ban it because they didn't like it. While there was a women's group protesting against the alcoholism in the country, I don't think it would have had any traction were it not for the anti union push.

Saloons were a great meetup spot to make unions. Everyone from work was already there. If companies could make saloons illegal, it would make it harder to make unions. But there was a problem. The US got a lot of its tax revenue from alcohol taxes.

So they pitched the idea of replacing alcohol tax with income tax, making the budget balance (in fact much improve!). So it got passed to benefit the US government budget, and help the union situation for companies.

It was not prohibited for long. As you stated, it quickly went awry. But it didn't matter. The US government now gets its income tax, plus alcohol tax now. Saloons became less popular since they were gone long enough for habits to change.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

It's still the same situation with illegal drugs, but America outsourced the production and supply chain largely underground (and to other countries as they are much easier to smuggle than alcohol.) So same problems and empowering gangs, but happening outside Americas borders, and thus not America's problem. Most present day issues with drug cartels are a derivative of America trying to control peoples' access to substances and driving them from the open market to the black market... seems to have done a lot more harm to the world and peoples lives than good (as an opinion).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Kinda like....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

because we already made it illegal, and we saw what happened. Weed is just the natural successor to that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

William Randolph Hurst

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They wanted an excuse to lock up people of color and disrupt communities. With the civil rights act, they couldn’t go old school. So they invented the “war” on drugs specifically because blacks and Latinos were stereotyped as being cannabis smokers. This is all about racism.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Not everything in the world revolves around the US...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In this case it is. Cannabis laws globally were influenced, often coerced by the U.S., so the race issues that made cannabis illegal here affected much of the world for decades and still does.

My answer to the OP's question, I think alcohol fits in a capitalist society better than cannabis. Same with caffeine and nicotine. Alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine are addictive, (caffeine arguably also facilitates labor), and don't tend to cause pondering one's place in the world, etc.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

However when the context is the US, you can keep your edginess to yourself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

How is the context here the US exactly?

Edit: sure, I guess just downvote me for asking an innocent question, not sure what's going on here.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How do you know where the OP is located? Alcohol is legal in most countries, and cannabis is illegal in most. This question applies almost anywhere in the world.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And the US has exported marijuana prohibition all over the globe.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The US wasn't even the first to ban it. In 1937 Marijuana Tax act was passed that effectively prohobited it, but a full ban came in 1970. Countries that banned it before 1937 include, but are not limited to: Thailand, Irish free state, Romania, UK, Indonesia, Australia, Lebanon, Sudan, Italy, Panama, Canada, South Africa, Mexico, Jamaica, Greece, Singapore...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Technically, we were the first to make any Cannabis legislation, in 1619.

Only problem, it was to force folks to grow it.

Weird.

Seems the church was the first to ban it's use in 1484, does papal law count? Not sure on Tony's Sources.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Sure does, the Papal States was a country back the.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

People who drink alcohol are more likely to vote than people who use other drugs.

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