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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

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good news, everyone! eliezer is writing fiction again (www.lesswrong.com)

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"glowfic" apparently. written in a roleplay forum format.

This is not a story for kids, even less so than HPMOR. There is romance, there is sex, there are deliberately bad kink practices whose explicit purpose is to get people to actually hurt somebody else so that they'll end up damned to Hell, and also there's math.

start here. or don't, of course.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

Why do both Scotts and Eliezers pseudonyms end with 'ain'? Yvain and Iarwain.

Edit: and small frustration what is up with the lack of timestamps? I know the internet is getting worse and worse with those replacing the 'posted at 22 feb 2022' with 'posted 1 year ago' things (as predicted in the transmetropolitan), or just having sites autoupdate the timestamps to seem current for the google ranking (saw a '2024' guide which in the text still talked about 2023 and had a mid 2023 timestamp, so somebody messed up a script there). But no timestamps at all is a bit odd, the only timestamp I saw was 'Jan 19, 2024, 3:29 PM' and that looks suspiciously like 'now'.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

also, thanks for the intro to "glowfic" - for a good chunk of my 20s I was obsessed with my side project which I called "plotplant" (dorky?) which was an infinitely forkable collaborative writing app. I never got it past a few different build attempts because I would always get caught in the weeds of how, if it were successful, the complexity of a story that had loads of branches would be navigated. My own personal xanadu. Anyway, this glowfic looks like a nightmare scenario that would keep me in them weeds, ruminating, "there has to be a better way!"

It's so hard to read when every bit has all that meta info next to it! Written by Eliezer or not

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

actually I found this ancient text online that helps explain everything:

Eliezer Monogatari, chapter 69:

On his mighty steed Oververbosity, Eliezer is fast approaching the cliff edge overlooking the dreaded Chasm of Unreadability. His desire to cram more words and IQfulness into his text has deafened him to the wails of the Ghost of Editors Past, begging him to at least paste into Google Docs and fix a few squigglies.

In a moment of rational brilliance, he casts Bayesian Reasoning and epiphanisationalises that he can Just Add Metainfo to every line, exponentially increasing his QLAWPW (quality of life adjusted words per word), making him The Greatest Author. His loyal mount leaps into the air over the abyss, buoyed by clouds of self-delusion.

Of course, he crashes and falls into the chasm. But what's this? The miasma of unreadability... it's more clouds of self-delusion generated by the cult of TREACLES! He rises, unscathed, head three sizes bigger than before.^1^

1: Scholars are divided on whether this is because the toxic miasma mutated his sense of self-worth or if he hit his head on the chasm floor and it swelled. We will never know.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

this story takes place in a totalitarian state ruled by the literal forces of literal Hell

Look, I'm giving it a go but the very first line of the content warnings is a case of "is this written by a grown man or a 14 year old emo kid"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

is this written by a grown man or a 14 year old emo kid

yes

(the MC is jughead from Riverdale lel)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yeah i tried but i don't think this was meant to be read by anyone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's both impenetrable and punishing, which I think is in part due to the glowfic format (which I am new to). There's even a glowfic primer from LW!.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

One advantage of the format is I did like the bits where Yud's writing partner seemed to be trying to rein in his nonsense spewing a bit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

what a terrible day to be literate

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Past 1M words

That's gonna be 4.000 pages of extremely dubious porn and rationalist navel gazing, if anyone's keeping count.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

University level biochemistry handbook is ~quarter that thick and if EY read that, he'd never consider stiff bacteria as anything other than asinine fever dream

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

thankful that you need to sign up using a google account or email to read, this will shield more people from the radioactive glowfic

Edit TOO LATE there's a Tvtropes page: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Roleplay/ProjectLawful

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Reading a bit of this page convinced me to never read this Isekai into hell story from Yud. It isn't even that im against edgy hell themed stories I mean Dante Alighieri did it well, and the planescape setting in dnd is not bad imho (it does have the same devils/demons split as this story so very original Yud). But the rest reads just as tiringly 'Lesswrong nerd out rationalizes DnD rules'. Using a specifically crafted sentence in a wish spell to get antimatter bombs to destroy a fort which protects the 'makes you a god/kills gods' stone.

(I don't mind people who do enjoy it btw, it just screams very not for me)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (4 children)

There is romance, there is sex, there are deliberately bad kink practices whose explicit purpose is to get people to actually hurt somebody else

The fact that this isn’t just a ratfic of My Immortal is cowardice to the highest degree

Also, I will mention it every time it comes up: “dath ilan” is an anagram of thailand and there just has to be a reason, dammit.

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