Does anyone have that image of the fucked up fork meme that was going around a few days ago?. I hated that one and was telling about it but couldn't find it.
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Not to defend the insulting but most people don't realise that the person is autistic. Autism has different spectrum and some of the symptoms are very subtle for the untrained. I have a family member who is diagnosed with autism late in life, which explains a lot when we were growing up.
That is true and fair, and the fact that plenty of these issues come from ignorance is good enough for me to think that not everyone that the post is calling out is some sort of irredeemable moral failing. Though that only goes as far as the people involved are willing to listen and understand that on the best of days, atypical, innocuous behavior isn't something you should be mocking, that you only have the impulse to do so because your monkey brain wants to punch someone down the social hierarchy ladder and that's pretty fucking dumb; and on the worst of days, it's yet another contributing factor to complete social alienation and internalized shame for autistic people.
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Maybe we should raise our standard to "don't bully."
Sadly we love hierarchy dominance just about as much as we hate how much it makes us look like apes.
Teachers and school administrators almost always side with bullies. They can't help themselves.
I know. My child had a terrible time* of it, during their school years. And I'm slowly* becoming more aware, because I've almost no filter and blurt out whatever crosses my mind. I'm addressing it, but reversion sneaks up on me. I just have to keep working at that, and way too often, missing what seems obvious to others or very belatedly.
*Yay autocorrect
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I'm autistic, but I can pick up on most sarcasm and most implicit statements
It's almost like autism is a spectrum and it can go from hardly noticeable to so severe that you can't survive without constant supervision and assistance.
I also can pick up 100% of the sarcasm and implicit statements that i notice.
well sometimes if you don't know the person that well or if it's a loaded issue they're talking about, you just have to come out and say "I can't tell if you're being sarcastic"
.... He was implying that you may very likely have no idea that you're missing implicit statements and sarcasm, because you're, well, missing it.
The main meaning is still there and most of the time, nothing happens if you miss the implicit or sarcastic meaning, so it's very likely you'll never notice you missed it.
You actually have no real way of knowing if you are good or bad at picking up implicit/sarcastic meanings, because you would have to check each and every statement and depend on whoever you're checking with to be truthful and/or good at picking up thesr statements as well. If you don't do that and just go from your own experience, it's actually impossible for you to tell how good you are.
It's kind of funny that I have to explain this because this is a perfect example of you missing the implicit meaning, right within a discussion of the topic.
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Same here. It's something that can be learned
It really depends on the way someone's autism effects their social skills. Not everyone has the capacity to learn these skills, Autism does create a skill cap for many people.
It's also a question of involved effort. I was in a form of ABA therapy as a kid and I was capable of learning to identify sarcasm and read social cues, so I did.
But it doesn't come naturally to me, it requires a level of concentration and conscious processing that I don't hear non-autistic people discussing. It causes headaches and migraines and after a few days of work, using these skills every minute of the day, I'm exhausted and struggle with basic tasks at home. I don't have these same issues with exhaustion or conscious processing when I'm with other autistic people (I work in disability programming, I coordinate/admin 3 days a week with mostly neurotypical people, and run programs 1 day a week with mostly neurodivergent people, and there's a big difference on how much "effort" it takes to understand people in those two environments)
Not saying it's not worth learning. If you can learn these skills they are incredibly important and at the bare minimum they will keep you safe.
But as a society we need to accept that for a small subset of people with disabilities, these skills are unachievable, and reasonable accommodations will still need to be made, and for a slightly larger subset, accommodations may still need to be made on occasion because while someone may have these skills, they might not have the cognitive capacity to employ these skills 100% of the time.
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I just never had issues with it in the first place.
Now, basically every other kind of nonverbal communication on the other hand...
congratulation
Autistic sarcasm is the best.
autism certified sarcasm :^)
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