The "open sourced" private components repo is under a fauxpen source (non-commercial) license. Floorp is still proprietary.
this post was submitted on 23 Mar 2024
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Not proprietary, but source-available.
source-available.
Ergo, proprietary.
edit: my prior comment on the difference between fauxpen source and true free software licenses. It's not just theoretical or "purist"
Ok sure, but most people associate proprietary with closed-source. What's wrong with just saying source-available (instead of open-source)? Calling this proprietary just leads to confusion.
Because it's not really about the "availability" of source code, but more about what you can actually do with the source code. If you don't have the four freedoms it's not free software.
Well free software isn't the same thing as open-source software
Because it gives the wrong impression that it is not proprietary, just like how you are making this exact mistake.
They just open sourced the private repository 7 minutes ago, 2024-03-24T12:39Z
That's great. I edited the post title.
Can you edit the post to say why it is outdated? I was confused seeing the title.
Good idea.
The creator of Floorp posted a reponse to this: https://blog.ablaze.one/4125/2024-03-11/
TLDR posted by the creator: creator:
To put it simply, the current Floorp, including forks, will end the moment I stop maintaining it, so to prevent that from happening, I have prohibited forks. The idea is to solve the user's concern about code transparency by tightening the license when returning to open source, and to create a sustainable Floorp by giving them the choice of paying money or helping with the coding.
Unfortunately a lot of this seems in reponse to Midori, a seemingly hostile fork with a pretty suspcious website.
Unfortunately a lot of this seems in reponse to Midori, a seemingly hostile fork with a pretty suspcious website.
To some people all forks are hostile. This appears to be such a case. He just seems to be sour over people exercising the same freedoms he got from Mozilla upstream. Rules for thee but not for me. The free software community doesn't need his obscure fork.
I disagree in this case. The majority of Firefox forks make it clear they're a fork, giving credit to Mozilla. Midori seems to hide that they're a fork while adding very little to the browser. Their website also takes donations while having a fake phone number and broken contact button. Hard not to see that as suspicious.
Edit: the dev was also completely ok with Firedragon switching to their codebase because they did so resepectfully.
I still disagree with what the dev did, but I get the struggle.
I agree that the Midori website is suspicious however their repo properly credits Firefox and Floorp in the very first sentence of the readme (however they don't actually link to this repo for some reason). In any case, my intent isn't to defend Midori (which I don't use or have any interest in) but rather to defend the four freedoms none of which are conditional on how much a fork adds or contributes back. In other words, it's perfectly ok to just fork something and change the name.
I still maintain it's ironic that a fork developer is complaining about forks of his fork. This statement is baffling but I suppose it comes from a proprietary mindset where copying is theft:
If these are forked, my hundreds of hours will have been wasted.
By this logic the decades of development time on Firefox is wasted because of this guy's fork.
If y'all are mad about this, look into Midori. It's a fork of florp and I think it's better, too.
What does it even do better? I remember using it right after they redid it and it was just a 1/1 copy of Floorp
I tested the speed on both and Midori was a lot faster.
Is it open source?
As far as I know, yes.
From the website:
With Midori Browser you can browse the web with complete confidence and an advanced tracking blocker.
Then the next paragraph states:
Cryptotoken: To reward our users, we are organizing an initiative a Token to give users to use our products and services without tracking.
So it blocks tracking but adds more tracking, so users can buy some shitcoin to remove the tracking?
I'm glad that their forks of simple mobile tools didn't gain traction, then
Well that was an emotional roller coaster.
Welp, I'll be damned then. Back to good ole Firefox then
Still going to use the heck out if it. It's super useful in my workflow and firefox at heart. I want to be more productive, not poorductive on some weird purist idealism.
Then you missed the point of why people do this in the first place, it's not about idealism
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