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[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Since someone else brought up superapps, do they seem like an initial attempt to get around the manufacturer's app store lock-in?

Super apps allow adding mini apps. Seems like an app store.

The goog/apple app stores are already saturated by malware, I can't imagine some mini app store would do better. Even if the big two did do a better job, how would they go about vetting all the code these super apps might have access to?

I guess I'm too jaded, but it seems like just another malware loader you intentionally install.

Am I being too hard on the concept? Are there any really good ones you've used?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Why rely on them doing the detective work and just not give 1 more second to think through before hitting that install button? This is basic digital hygiene.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I had hoped that as most younger adults now were kids who grew up with computers, the average person would have a pretty good understanding of how they work. I never expected everyone to be a programmer or sysadmin of course, but to have a general sense of things like whether data is stored on their device or remotely, how to find out if an app install is risky, and whether a prompt requesting permissions, a password, etc... is reasonable.

For the most part, I don't think that has happened. The average person doesn't know how to use a computer and isn't going to learn.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago

I don't think this lawsuit is going to make a difference.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 7 months ago (15 children)

The Verge has such a hard on for this story. They’ve published like ten articles about it already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Really? I kept getting the feeling they were being sarcastic so I stopped reading

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Think about all the legit clicks.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I expect them to cover this in as much detail as possible. They are probably the last big tech / business news website standing. I know Gizmodo, Engadget, Tech Crunch etc exist but nobody seems to have resources and connections The Verge does.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair, it’s the most interesting story the verge has covered in about, well, as long as the verge has existed.

This is a big deal - it’s going to shape the entire tech industry for the foreseeable future. And it’s going to drag on in court and probably also congress for years and years.

Apple is the target of the lawsuit but the DoJ is also telling every other tech company what rules they need to operate under. The last decade of “just do whatever you want” is over.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here's the full complaint, for those who want to read the whole thing.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


United States v. Apple is a lawsuit written for the general public, an 88-page press release designed to be read aloud on cable news shows.

That’s not against the rules — note that United States v. Google (filed 2023) has a single, terse intro paragraph outside the numbered section — but US v. Apple powers up for two whole pages before getting into allegations.

There are even a beguiling few paragraphs in which the DOJ compares the need to regularly update AAA video game titles to the onerous process of App Store review and then concludes that “Apple’s conduct made cloud streaming apps so unattractive to users that no developer designed one for the iPhone.” At no point does the DOJ allege that Apple is why I can’t play AAA games on my iPhone….

(At the Thursday press conference, Attorney General Merrick Garland made no mention of how Sarah Jeong would like to see the SE return to its 2016 size.)

It’s fun to engage with the legal distillation of nerd rage at the line level, but there’s also an overarching narrative here that the DOJ is trying to push, one with potentially enormous ramifications.

Meanwhile, the opening volley in its battle against one of America’s favorite companies is a killer start, not least in part because of an unusual degree of lawyerly insight into the human psyche.


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