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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Honestly I never finished the first game due to life and busyness but loved the 50 hrs in it. So excited to see this one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Looks great! I really liked the first game!

I hope it also comes to PC. I suspect I will come out after 6-12 months after the PS5 version, maybe even at the same time if I'm lucky. Unfortunately I'm never lucky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Usually Sony allows its exclusive on PC after 2 years Horizon, etc.).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

For me at least, the first part was an absolute work of art. Apart from the crazy, not always entirely comprehensible story, it was simply beautiful. I'll never forget the moment when I climbed through the vast landscapes for the first time and suddenly heard this phenomenal soundtrack. The amount of multiplayer influence was also just right; you got the impression that someone had been here before, but you never met anyone. Wonderful.

Didn't expect a second part to be released, what a pleasant surprise!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Since this entire thread is just people shitting on the first game i figured id be a little different and say something good about the game. I very much liked the first one. Super weird but intriguing story super well acted awesome visuals and stunning graphics. If you like weird unique sifi stories you'll enjoy it. Its a slow relaxing game with some pretty intense stealth. I can't wait for the second one. Tho i do wish kojima would move on and make something more akin to metal gear plus death standing. His recent announcement the other day seems to confirm he will be doing that game after ds 2.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

walking simulator

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Alright, I'm on Cyberpunk now, and was going to do Alan Wake 1 and 2 next, but I think I'll go with DS.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Kojima is the JJ Abrams equivalent in the game industry. Great visual execution, but absolutely horrendous story-telling that will make you wish were dumb as a piece of loaf so as to not notice it.

When Kojima made a comment that he didn't fully understand the story himself... It sort of all made sense. It's just connotations mashed together, beach, strand, hair, cord... A big pile of nothing to create intrigue with no payout, no mystery to reveal, just more layers of confusion. Sort of like Lost. I'm sure JJ and Kojima would get along great.

But oh boy are some of those moment exceptionally beautiful and spectacular in all its illogical absurdity. Mads Mikkelsen's acting. Got goosebumps. But then it falls apart by revealing flaws through the fourth wall. Like did... part of this mystery hinge on the double meaning of words? Whatever the fuck was going on, it's a little bit silly for synonyms to play an important part.

Kojima has a lot of other great tastes. Using music to create moments of excellent cinematography. Motion capture and character designs have always been fantastic. There are moments in Death Stranding that made me have to put down the controller and just. Enjoy. The same goes with Metal Gear games I grew up with. The flower field in MGS3, and forcing you to pull the trigger... The attention to detail on so many gameplay mechanics. It's just brilliant. But, the illogical and meaningless complexity for the story and world building? That part has always been the weakest part and left a bad taste. In MGS it was confusing enough, but it had a certain charm. In DS, puuh, it's rough.

JJ and Kojima should have nothing to do with writing storylines and plots. Imagine how much brilliant stuff we would be left with? And I never understood why. In JJs case, I suspect it's simply decent return on investment for those who fund the movies. But from a craftsmanship perspective, it's weird. The culmantion of work from hundreds of artists, all masters in their respective fields, and it shows, yet, it comes together to tell a story, surrounding a plot that a 14-year old might put together.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Kojima isn’t JJ Abrams.

Abrams writes mystery box stories where everything hinges on resolving the box and ends up with an ultimately lackluster resolution.

Kojima stories are confusing webs within webs throughout. They exist on theme and vibe, while being simultaneously incredibly well researched, intentionally absurd, and with ill advised choices that surely mean something when they were made.

Kojima is the Richard Kelly of video games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Having not played the first game at all, this trailer looks even more ridiculous (in a bad way) than the first one did. The graphics certainly look amazing though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I got burnt out on the first one. Pretty setting and some neat ideas aside, I do wonder how many people would be interested in a sequel to this. It wasn’t exactly gripping in story or gameplay to begin with. Though I’m happy it was made, it was something unique at least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That's true, it was definitely unique. I'm glad it was made too.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I personally don't care a lot about Kojima's games but I still think it's absolutely great he gets to make whatever he makes because he is a unique voice in gaming! In a sea of games as a service, mindless franchise milking and countless copycats someone like him is needed to make outlandish stuff, whether I like the games or not. Tons of people do and that's great!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I have ~140 hours on the first game, but I’m not particularly interested in most of the content shown in this trailer. I find Kojima’s writing to be eye-rolling horrendous and cringe-worthy (I still remember this quote from the first game: “I’m fragile but not that fragile” HUH). That being said, I’m looking forward to this sequel because of the possibility of new gameplay mechanics (like that flood that wrecked the ramp). I'm excited about new weapons, vehicles, enemies and mechs! I wish the trailer has more of that instead.

edit: clarity

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How did you play 140 hours of the first game, and not know Fragile says that same line multiple times?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What are you asking? Why would you assume they don't know? I'm so confused.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Not really sure how you can roll your eyes at the dialogue from the trailer, but not from Death Stranding 1 or the Metal Gear games. This isn't any more ridiculous than any other game he's made.

Edit: for the record, I very much enjoy kojima games. I liked MGS games and Death Stranding 1. But there is no denying that his games are all weird as absolute fuck.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

You're that ninja!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I'm looking forward to this the most! It's going to be a long year.

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