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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Did some new information come out? Last analysis video I watched seemed to point to pilots accidentally retracting flaps instead of landing gear.

https://youtu.be/z7EZkungFEE

Oh, I see he already posted an update : https://youtu.be/8XYO-mj1ugg

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You should question whether to continue listening to people who claimed it was the pilots, at least anyone who stated it unequivocally. Even in the original shyte video, you can hear the RAT on the plane. A RAT doesn't deploy unless the pilots want it to, or under several critical circumstances, like losing all four hydraulic pumps.

The fact the RAT was deployed, from the very beginning, made it very obvious something was going very wrong, and almost certainly not because the pilots simply forgot to set flaps.

Also, pretty sure this plane can take off without flaps, it's just not going to be wise or fun to do so.

So... yea, anyone who claimed pilot error without qualifying that shitty opinion to hell should not be listened to for information. On anything if they treat truth with such disrepsect.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think you watched either video.

He very specifically said it's nearly impossible to take off without flaps because plane will aggressively complain about taking off in incorrect configuration.

He also very clearly said that new footage made RAT deployment obvious and that's why he changed his opinion.

Not defending him or trying to convince you and I'm certainly not an expert, but he knows what he's taking about (a lot of his prior analysis was confirmed by investigators) and is not afraid to admit to being wrong. I have no reason not to trust him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My late granddad used to work at Boeing before he started working at Airbus. he told my mum that Boeing planes always had something wrong with them and he didn't trust their culture of safety. he actively avoided flying on Boeings and chose airlines which only flew Airbus planes. I thought my granddad was scaremongering but with all the scandals involving Boeing coming out and whistleblowers I think my granddad was justified in what he said

I'm not an aviation expert but a double engine failure at the same time is absurdly rare and the last time that happened it was a 777 which had some design defect with the fuel lines if i'm remembering things right. Boeing also removed lightning protection for the 787 to save costs

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think it may have been in the comments where some additional details were presented, as in it being related to a structural defect rather than "user error" or technical upkeep.

It reminds me of the situation with Toyotas where they kept blaming the driver for being heavy footed on the gas, and somehow the floor mats were blamed for killing people, until they found one car at the bottom of a lake... with the floor mats in the trunk (so zero possibility of that being the cause).

Back to Boeings: there were SENIOR pilots WITH SENIORITY (I simply cannot overemphasize just how crucial those words are in the aviation industry, though you likely know: it is simply EVERYTHING) who were walking away, quitting their jobs rather than fly those planes. Who in their right mind would train and work for literally decades, then at the very moment that you achieve your lifelong dream... turn it down and walk away? Them quitting under these conditions was an ENORMOUS wakeup call. And it wasn't just a handful of them either, but so many that they affected the entire industry having to get by with less capable pilots.

Airlines have been held together with duck tape for something close to a decade now, and as we are seeing, planes are literally falling out of the skies.

... though mostly only outside of the USA, so who cares, amiright?! 🤢🤮(To clarify in case those do not go through, those are the sickness and vomit emojis)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Was this the whistle blower who said he wouldn't kill himself, and that if he died that it would be an assassination...and then totally, positively, definitely 'committed suicide' 😏😏 and in no way was murdered?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Actually, in all seriousness, I believe this is the other one? :-P

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The US has lost its luster.

And I am beginning to question whether The American Dream was a dream or a mass delusion.

Meanwhile Bezos is shutting down Venice so the mondo-wealthy can go to his second wedding.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

beginning to question

Better late than never

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The American dream was made impossible with the introduction of income tax, although the granting 'personhood' to corporations was a contributing factor too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're being voted down because that is the dumbest thing you could possibly say... Are taxes theft? Not if the government actually does things that benefit many.

Also, you have a gross lack of understanding of history. The American Dream was ALWAYS a lie. Who was allowed to vote at the founding of this country? ONLY land owners. Slavery existed openly. The American Dream was and is only a marketing campaign to sucker in uninformed fools.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

George C. Boldt went from rags to millionaire when millionaire meant something. He was able to outright buy a competing hotel to the one he already owned less than 20 years after coming to America as a dish washer. This was in the late 1800s, before income tax and massive corporations.

In fact, it's believed by many that Boldt's story inspired F. Scott Fitzgerald's Jay Gatsby.

Andrew Carnegie is another notable immigrant who went from near-naught to millionaire.

Or if we're allowed to include Americans, John D. Rockefeller, and Henry Ford

As corporations grew and income tax was introduced, it became nearly impossible for someone working a menial job to put enough money away to 'rise up' and join the ranks of the elite. The most recent examples people cite, like Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, etc. came from wealth already.

Now, do you want to continue this discussion? If so, I kindly ask you stick to actual facts, and stop trying to insult me and/or inferring I wrote things that I didn't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, you're so right! Everyone would be their own boss with just 10%-20% more income, you are so wise!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You have to be asleep to believe it, as George Carlin said.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

It's a big club and you aint in it.