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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Note that I'm not just talking about the shitheads who cause forest fires or water contamination, with their bullshit. I'm talking about ANY of this dumb shit.

People used to have some goddamn dignity. If you wanted to keep the sex of the baby a secret, then you'd have both pink and blue cigars ready to hand out, after the birth. If you wanted the doctor to tell you, then that's fine. You'd be talking to your friends and you'd go "yeah, the new kid's gonna be a girl."

The whole concept of an extra baby shower, just to hoot and holler about that shit is FUCKING INTOLERABLE.

As far as I'm concerned, it shows that these dipshits are only interested in their offspring as accessories to their own lives. They're after the attention they can get, off the back of their children. They're after the lifestyle of being a parent, so they can associate with other people who define themselves based on the social and material trappings of parenting. And they're drooling after social media likes and views.

Anyone who participates in that shit is proving that they're not interested in being the parent of a human being. They're just making a doll to dress up and pose for pictures, starting before the child is even out of the womb.

To reiterate the title: if it was up to me, everyone who has ever had any kind of gender-reveal nonsense for their upcoming kid should have that child seized by the state, hopefully to be raised by real people, rather than soulless degenerates.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Christ on a bike. You're allowed to not like something, that's fine. But your opinion isn't law.

Removing children from parents for a party, and saying they're better off being abused in a system rather than with their family because they... Threw a party. That's unhinged. You have serious unchecked mental health issues.

Maybe I should lose my kid then. Because I bought food and one confetti filled balloon to do a tiny reveal for my 6 year old sister because she was insanely excited to know if she'd have a niece or a nephew. God forbid I wanted to do something cute for my sister. I hate parties, I hate big celebrations and small ones. But seeing her smile and basically vibrate because pink confetti fell out of a balloon was such a cute moment. There was 4 of us there in total, me, her, my mum and my stepdad. We already knew. But wanted to make it a little bit extra fun for my sister. So please, tell me how I'm narcissistic for wanting to bring a little excitement to a child's day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

OK that's fucking stupid. I don't like gender reveal parties either, but that's a HUGE overreaction. People having different opinions about trivial things is not a reason to take their kids. WTF is wrong with you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Get a hobby

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hmmmm yes I'm sure the government will raise those kids better 😅 Fr though besides this being a massive over-reaction, you're having your own "throw the baby out with the bathwater" moment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is annoying, but you're way too extreme. Take their kids from them!? You are an actual crazy person. You should not be allowed near schools.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Where is this attitude coming from? I really don't get it. People have their kids taken away from them all the time. For a whole bunch of different reasons. It literally happens every day. I just want to add one more reason, and it's a perfectly good one.

I'm genuinely confused by your extreme reaction.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes most are insufferable. That being said... who gives a shit if Debra invites some family over to pop a balloon and celebrate the growing of a family?

Seems kinda harsh that people wanting to celebrate life with their loved ones should have their child "seized by the state"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Debra can celebrate without being a narcissistic cunt. It's really not that difficult. In fact, it's EASIER to celebrate without being a narcissistic cunt. It's literally less effort.

You just invite your friends over, have some drinks or whatever, and at some point you can be like "so anyway, the kid's gonna be a girl/boy."

This is not a steep-learning-curve concept. At all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So making it a surprise to be revealed is the real tipping point of being an unfit parent?

Also, would you elaborate on how it's being narcissistic?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It's the grandiose, self-congratulatory, hyper-ceremonial pomp and circumstance of the situation.

It demonstrates a total lack of humility. So your baby-oven functions properly. Whoopee. It can produce either of the two standard flavors of human. Big fucking deal.

You know why so many traditions are ancient? Like, rooted in versions of themselves that are at LEAST centuries old, if not millennia? BECAUSE STARTING NEW TRADITIONS IS AN INTRINSICALLY EGOTISTICAL THING TO DO.

Following old traditions isn't just something you do because you're "supposed to." When you follow a venerable tradition (as oppposed to a trendy fad), you are communicating that you understand your place. You're just one human in a long chain of humans, just like yourself in every important respect. You're affirming that you understand you're truly not anything special, and neither are your offspring. And that's A GOOD THING. Most people aren't special. People have intrinsic value, as EQUALS, and it's good when we recognize that.

Jumping onto a newly-made, bandwagon tradition like this one (especially one that is openly self-aggrandizing) indicates that you think in the opposite fashion. You think you're the hottest of all the hot shit. You think you're the main character.

If you think that way, you're simply a bad person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Man you are an AH. The baby oven functioning properly is not a guarentee. Its something a lot of people struggle with. I find you much more cringe than people wanting to throw an extra party. The only gender reveal party ive ever been to was for people with fertility issues. They had several miscarriages and that pregnancy meant the world to them. Seeing the gender on ultrasound was a milestone theyd never reached despite years of heartbreak.

So you're insensitive and edgy, big whoop. You don't need to post about it and pretend you are hot shit.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

people wanting to throw an extra party

I understand people WANTING to throw an extra party. I understand people WANTING to pretend that they're special snowflakes.

The point is, in order to be functional members of society, you need to RESTRAIN your selfish urges to scream about how super-duper you are, from your fucking rooftop.

You say I'm pretending that I'M hot shit? No. I'm not bragging about myself. I'm not saying I'm special. What I'm doing is trying to take annoying, self-absorbed shitheads down a few pegs. That is a necessary and useful function of society. That's not a new fad. Reminding annoying people that they suck is possibly the longest-standing tradition that exists. I'm certain that language was literally invented, just so people could be told to stop acting the fool.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You know why so many traditions are ancient? Like, rooted in versions of themselves that are at LEAST centuries old, if not millennia? BECAUSE STARTING NEW TRADITIONS IS AN INTRINSICALLY EGOTISTICAL THING TO DO.

What? No, traditions proliferate because of network effects and cultural momentum.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

traditions proliferate because of network effects and cultural momentum

Yes, that's the mechanism of their transmission. But their PURPOSE is to reaffirm cultural norms, chiefly ones related to humility and basic conformity to one's society. Not the "I'm going to do literally everything exactly the same as everyone else" sort of conformity, mind you. Just the BASIC kind of conformity and humility. The kind that says "I'm no more valuable than everyone else in the community."

Rushing to join a new tradition (especially one that hyper-celebrates one's own reproduction) is an indication of the opposite impulse. You're communicating that you're better, more important, more valuable than your peers and your ancestors. That's destructive and maladaptive. Not everyone can be the best. If everyone thinks they're the most special, then nobody will want to do the equitable sharing and sacrificing that all societies have to do, in order to keep running.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ours was an awesome party. Nice for dad to have a baby event to participate in. Everyone is excited that you’re far enough along to determine sex - we know lots of people who lost pregnancies early.

Due to other senses noun “sex”, calling it a sex reveal party isn’t super accepted.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Listen very closely, Karen: nooooobody was excited to participate in your asinine ritual. You just think they were, because you're one of the narcissists that I'm talking about. Everyone there (except for you) was bored and annoyed, the whole time. I guarantee it.

They're just not narcissists, so they obey the social contract. They nodded and smiled, to be polite. Don't misconstrue that as actual excitement.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

This is a generalization on the same level as "all black people are..." and makes just as much sense. I think they're stupid too, but did it because it's what everyone but the parents wanted. I didn't think the day was about me, but my parents and in-laws were excited about the whole thing, and it made them happy. But apparently that level of self absorption means my two children should be taken from me...

You need to re-examine your life.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

When you get older, it gets harder and harder to find an excuse to get all your friends together, so you start making up BS reasons to do so. I don't see any harm in it tbh and I seriously doubt that you actually believe those people are "already an unfit parent, and [their] kid should be taken from [them], at birth," and if so, please go outside more and look at what life is like for children who are taken from their parents (parents who are presumably loving and financially sound enough to throw a party for them).

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

get all your friends together

Ain't nothing stopping you from just getting together, for some less stupid reason. Do that.

And you're wrong. I absolutely do believe every word of what I said. Even though the foster-care system is literally a torture and assault machine, it would be better for kids to be sent through that shit than to be saddled with parents who do fucking gender-reveal ceremonies. If you do that shit, you might as well just wear a t-shirt that says "I'M NOT JUST A MORON, I'M A NARCISSISTIC, SELF-OBSESSED, SHALLOW MORON."

If you're in foster care, you at least learn the truth pretty quickly: your caregivers don't love you, and you shouldn't trust them.

But if you're being raised by biological parents who are narcissistic morons, you might not realize that fact for your whole life. And so you're likely to be their willing slave, plaything, soldier, etc, all the way to their dying day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I feel the same about people who make posts like yours. Its pretty narcissistic to assume the reasons you think they do it are the only reasons.

A bit rich for the pot to be calling the kettle black. Whats more gross is you are downplaying actual abuse when you put unimportant shit like this on the same level as actual abuse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Well, that's odd. Hunh... checks notes

Username does not check out. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

It's sort of aspirational, ya know what I mean?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not just unpopular, but also extremist. 👏 Congrats.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I was legitimately expecting the word "breeders" to come up with how much OP seems to hate anything to do with new parents celebrating their new parenthood.