This didn't work with Biden and the harsh immigration law the Dems proposed back then, I feel like it won't work now either. Trump just went "Lol, no." and his supporters just swallowed it like the good little Kool-Aid drinkers they are.
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I'm so glad the war just broke out two weeks ago and the eu is responding so quickly and decisively. /s
This looks promising but dear lord thess politicians should all be jailed for the rest of their lives for sending weapons instead(!) of proper sanctions.
How can you kill hundreds of thousands of people on both sides without proper sanctions...
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying the EU has imposed no sanctions before this? If so, that's objectively false. The EU has imposed many sanctions against Russia already since February 2022 on top of existing sanctions because of Crimea.
I'm trying to say when a country invades another and you, as a country, can determine that it is 100% not okay, you immediately seize all trade with them and start imposing every possible sanction on them and those who are still trading with them.
I'm talking about days after the attack, not years.
You absolutely do not supply both sides, which everyone did.
True, they didn't immediately seize all trade, but within a month already imposed sanctions like bans on imports and exports (particularly related to weapons and energy), restricted Russia's access to the EU financial markets, SWIFT bans on several Russian banks (I don't understand why not all of them) and a lot more.
Since the start they've imposed 17 sanction packages. Should they have done more in the 1st month though? Absolutely. I read your comment as if you were saying they did nothing at all, hence my response being what it was. If I read that wrong, I apologize.
Thanks for apologizing. I just treated your comment as a misunderstanding, which it ultimately was.
I still think it's not enough what they're doing. Zero trade is binary. It is either true or not. After that, one starts to impose draconian measures on others who are not doing the same. All within the first month. That would have ground it to a halt easily.
Instead over a million people are dead now and it is still going.
Given some of the Putin bootlickers in the EU parliament though, like Hungary, I wonder if that would've even been possible.
It would have been great if that at least would have been done in some countries but at least where I live, life has a pricetag.
guessing some of them had (have?) some ties to russia or russian assets one way or another
or, it could be that some russian resources may be vital and hard to replace, so they had make some compromises. I know from a few years back, for instance, that cobalt-60 gamma sources were sourced nearly exclusively from russia. and those are needed worldwide for sterilization via gamma-irradiation of all sorts of things (including the single-use syringes widely used in hospitals). and that's just one example. wonder how many more there are
otherwise, I can't really understand why russia wasn't briefly excluded from SWIFT
Profit. The answer is profit.