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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Software controlled by a 3rd party is an agent of that 3rd party.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Wait, people have one drive installed?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Yea. I use it daily so I can share files between my PCs without any thought.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

If you (or anyone reading this) are ever looking to decloud, you can set up Syncthing in a OneDrive-like setup

  1. Create a Syncthing share between your computers at %userprofile%\Syncthing
    C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing
    and verify the share works between windows systems.

  2. Create the shared system folders in it: %userprofile%\Syncthing[library folder]
    C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Desktop C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Documents C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Pictures

  3. Open explorer, go to [My Computer/This PC], right-click on the appropriate system folder (Windows has system folders for: 3D Objects, Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, Videos), go to Properties (under 'more' for Win11), select Location, and either manually enter or use the move button to select the new location. On pressing apply, you can also use the prompt to move the folder contents between locations (yes on the first PC, but manual for others if you might clobber files)

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I just turned off and uninstalled One Drive when I got Windows 11 and have had zero issues

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I just turned off and uninstalled windows when I got Windows 8 and have had zero issues.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Fool, it's not "your" computer, it's Microsoft's. You shall use it the way they deem best for you.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Well, at least it's not ChromeOS. Yet.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As a Linux person forced to use OneDrive at work, OneDrive sucks in almost every capacity. Why would I pay MS for a service that fails at its core objectives?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Name two capacities that it fails in

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 days ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

Sometimes it randomly stops synchronizing without telling me, and I need to physically move between machines and locations to get everything back online again. Network issues can happen to any vendor, but why is there no notification for days at a time about it?

Somewhat related, it happens that overdrive fails to read timestamps and deletes my work because another computer without it comes online. That's fairly unacceptable from a synchronization tool that demands to replace my hard drive.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

It moves your library locations when you install it, so virtually everything that uses a Users\{Username}\{file path} instead of the library’s referenced location will break. Oblivion Remastered players recently encountered this, because the game defaults to saving in a hard path instead of a referenced path. If you have OneDrive installed, the Documents folder exists at Users\{Username}\OneDrive\Documents. But the game defaults to saving in Users\{Username}\Documents. But Steam uses the referenced library location. So when Steam tries to back up your saves to the cloud, it finds an empty saves folder.

Second, it defaults to backing up your desktop. Likely because many users just default to saving everything to their desktop. Which means you end up with a bunch of broken/duplicate shortcuts on each subsequent machine you use, because they all get cloud-imported from other computers.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The moving of libraries is what really irks me. I refuse to install it. Fucking pissed me off when lots of shit broke. Had to use junctions to fix it.

ALSO. When coding with powershell and installing modules in user context... It throws them in documents. Which gets usurped my OneDrive.

So now my powershell modules freak out due to being locked/syncing.

WHY MICROSOFT??

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I figured out like 2 days ago that you can right click the OneDrive warning in the file explorer and choose to dismiss it!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Since they revealed the start menu is a JavaScript app, I wouldn’t be surprised if every other app is also revealed to be a web browser in disguise…

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

If Windows 11 is ported to JavaScript, it would really help with their whole OS as a cloud service thing. I'll enjoy watching that. From a distance.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

By now it's a sloperating system full of slopvertisement and slopware

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Am I the only one that thinks one drive is cool? Apart from the fact that Microsoft tries to confuse the user and also harvests their data.

I think its cool to have core user folders that are automatically backed up to a cloud account. Ive been trying to find an extremely cheap way to set it up myself on Linux. It would be so cool to open a new distro, login to my cloud storage abd then have all my settings pull in and photos, documents etc. I want my music folder to replicate across all my devices including mobile. I know there are ways to do it synthingbor git, but I'd like a easy way like onedrive haha.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

Am I the only one that thinks one drive is cool?

I mean, yes. It is cool until a timestamp error convinces OneDrive to nuke your entire use folder. IT at my organization actually bans the use of OneDrive for whole disk synchronization. We can't get rid of it because it is just part of the Office and Outlook package, they depend on it for some dumb reason. But, enough people lost work valuable documents, and it consumes so much storage, that we were under a “how to disable OneDrive backup without losing your documents” campaign for several months. It is also an information leak target, that shit sends unencrypted telemetry and compromised our data security model.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

A HERETIC!!! GET THE TORCHES AND PITCHFORKS!!!!!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Apart from the fact that Microsoft tries to confuse the user and also harvests their data.

Well, that's the main problem. You can't put it aside in this discussion.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago

No because in this meme there is no difference of saving it to one drive vs your home folder so tricking the user into putting documents in one drive instead of the home folders is fine. Both instances will have a document locally available. Unless hankhill is concerned about microsoft snooping his files, which id argue thats not onedrives fault thats a using windows problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I use NextCloud to access and sync my files. I set up my own server, which isn't exactly as simple, but there's managed Nextcloud services by hetzner for ~ five Euro/month for 1TB of storage that you can access with NextCloud apps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah im not paying 5 euros a month. I dont want to pay more than $3 nzd a month. I just want to store like 30gb of files.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

ICloud does the same, but somehow is less intrusive about it. But I'd prefer these things to be opt-in rather than opt-out.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

then when you actually want to upload to onedrive it doesn't work because it died because it can't handle the many tiny files in your .venv folder

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Alternatively it's already full because steam workshop mods obviously need to be backed up in my personal cloud

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

My 1.2gb of Fallout 4 saves take priority

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Easy. It's a long name but you can rename onedrive accordingly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

If they don't have Hank saying this in the new season, I will be extremely disappointed

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

And if you delete onedrive with stuff in it, you lose access to saved files so windows can’t be considered os

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

Who has actually encountered this? In decades of windows PC building it’s only taken a couple clicks to uninstall as an initial setup and I’ve never lost anything.

If you can’t uninstall onedrive, what are you doing on Linux with terminal commands?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

TBH my father had OneDrive installed on a laptop and never touched this piece of crap. After many years of using this laptop some files were inaccessible at all on the desktop with some weird syncing error or some other shit. His files were lost despite of not doing anything unusual.

Fuck Microsoft and their unusable piece of crap operating system.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Who has actually encountered this?

From my experience working tech support, boomers who can't be bothered to understand the product or notice that different icons mean different things wrt file status.

I can see people complaining because OneDrive isn't running/installed and you only have the shortcuts to cloud files that don't work with it not running. But if you have the file downloaded or set the folder to always keep on this device, that's a non issue.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Welcome to discussions about Windows on Lemmy. Rather than learning how to properly use Windows, a lot of people around here will blame operator error on the OS and just jump ship to Linux at the first stumbling block. They'll claim something incredibly simple to work around simply isn't possible.

If you frequent computer discussion around here you'll find yourself asking this a lot: "If you couldn't handle [complicated to access but easy to do Windows thing], how in the hell are you managing Linux?"

And a lot of the most outspoken against Windows here legitimately have not used it in over five years, yet speak as if they are up to date experts.


Relatedly: 99% of the "The sky is falling! Microsoft adds more ads to Windows!" articles thrown around on Lemmy are shit that is managed by ONE singular Settings menu option for all of them that (despite everyone's insistence to the contrary) does NOT get silently reset during updates. But you'll see everyone talking about the ads like they're completely unavoidable and re-enable themselves if you press spacebar too hard.


Linux is awesome, 99% of the issues to work around in Windows simply shouldn't exist in the first place, and don't there.

But it's still far from a smooth experience for non-technical users.

That said, for people who don't want to learn how something works and just want it to work, there's a compelling argument that copying and pasting random terminal lines off the internet is faster than trying to follow instructions guiding you through an unfamiliar UI. It's more opaque as what it's doing, and a lot easier to just fuck your install, but it can appear like less work in the short term.

For people open to learn though, I maintain that truly learning how to manage your linux distro install (instead of just being a copy paste warrior) is about as difficult as learning how to manage a Windows install properly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

People certainly enjoy to learn how things work, even on the console. They don't enjoy working around rocks a hostile OS throws in their way to line Microshit's pockets. Because it is a lost battle, knowing your workaround will only work for so long until Microsoft will find a better way to sabotage you on your own computer. You need to be completely insane to enjoy this shitl. And a complete asshole to comment based on assumptions and allegations like this in an arrogant tone that tries to hide the hollow incompetence that's behind it.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Well, isn't their whole sales pitch essentially that windows is super easy, everything has a GUI and you don't have to use the sCaRy TerMiNal? If you then have to change some cryptic registry entries to disable behavior that shouldn't be enabled in the first place, the argument for using it just collapses. It shouldn't be hard to uninstall the default browser, but somehow microsoft manages to make it hard

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you can’t uninstall onedrive, what are you doing on Linux with terminal commands?

Using the most commonly suggested command: rm -fr /*

Then you also lose access to saved files.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

The French language pack should always be uninstalled. Every cool Linux user knows that.

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