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World won’t forget Tiananmen Square, US and Taiwan say on 36th anniversary of massacre (www.theguardian.com)

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Date of 4 June remains one of China’s strictest taboos, with government using increasingly sophisticated tools to censor its discussion

There is no official death toll but activists believe hundreds, possibly thousands, were killed by China’s People’s Liberation Army in the streets around Tiananmen Square, Beijing’s central plaza, on 4 June 1989.

The date of 4 June remains one of China’s strictest taboos, and the Chinese government employs extensive and increasingly sophisticated resources to censor any discussion or acknowledgment of it inside China. Internet censors scrub even the most obscure references to the date from online spaces, and activists in China are often put under increased surveillance or sent on enforced “holidays” away from Beijing.

New research from human rights workers has found that the sensitive date also sees heightened transnational repression of Chinese government critics overseas by the government and its proxies.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Why is it being written as “date of 4 June”?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile Oklahoma telling kids the 2020 election was rigged under state law.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (17 children)

Tankies and whataboutism, name a more iconic duo (pro tip: you can't)

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 4 days ago (1 children)

US currently working on ways to top it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (5 children)

That’s exactly what I was thinking. I feel like we’re months away at most

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm confused, I thought June 5th was the taboo 'tank day'?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago

The massacre was on June 4th, and Tank Man was on the 5th. The involvement of the military lasted several days and the protests had been going on for a couple months.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

Not contesting there was a violent crackdown, but didn’t the video for this moment end with the tank just stopping the entire time, the briefcase guy climbing onto the tank, then getting shuffled away by fellow civilians?

Everyday we see way worse shit happening on the streets of the US. Somehow the crackdown back then on anti-communist academics is an enshrined moment, but people on our streets getting arrested, detained, or killed is just business as usual.

And we also act like our country doesn’t call academics “indoctrinated”, beat the living crap out of both students and academics, and doesn’t want to kill them. Amazing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (11 children)

You're actually delusional if you think anything like the Tiananmen square massacre is happening in the US today.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Everyday we see way worse shit happening on the streets of the US. Somehow the crackdown back then on anti-communist academics is an enshrined moment, but people on our streets getting arrested, detained, or killed is just business as usual.

If it's condensed down to a day then it's easy to bleat about it since you can point to a single day "where it all happened". If you spread out the injustice, like instituting unjust laws bill-by-bill, increasing police funding, and ramping up media rhetoric on how crime is out of control and that we need politicians who are "tough on crime" then you get something like the most imprisoned population on Earth, but there isn't a single focal point to point at, instead multiple contributing factors, so it doesn't stick out as much.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The were about 8000 people killed iirc. I once saw on reddit a link to a photo archive of the day and especially night. There were some very explicit photos. Like intestines falling out of opened bellies and bodies with half a head left.