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I was just thinking in the back of my head about how cheap LEDs have made types of lighting that would've cost way too much (both to install, and in electricity usage) no longer stupidly expensive.

For example, I noticed on Amazon some cheap furniture that has LEDs/power outlets sort of integrated right into them. Looks pretty cyberpunk-ish to my eyes. And I know years ago that sort of thing would've been marked up to high heavens.

Fancy lighting in general has changed drastically in price/design.

So...what are some things, due to changes in demand or changes in tech or changes in anything...that would've been really expensive back in the day, but which no longer seem to be, making them more frugal than they used to be?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I love the fact you used LEDs as part of your post, because they themselves perfectly fit the topic of the post. Back in the 80's and early 90's, LEDs were almost prohibitively expensive. I can remember consumer LEDs in like '92 being over $2 a piece, which is a lot if you compare to today when you can get programmable RGB LEDs for less than a nickle a piece.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean sure if you are talking leds but if your talking light bulbs in general then they are way more expensive than back in the day. Anything before mass production is more expensive than after but if you mean something that was basically mass produced but got cheaper then I think that has happended sometimes when a better process comes along. Gas is pretty cheap now relative to inflation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

An individual bulb is somewhat more expensive, yes, but I've noticed I no longer half-expect the typical popping sound of an incandescent bulb going dead randomly when I turn on a light because it's been so long since I've had a bulb truly burn out on me. Used to be a few-times-a-year thing, now it's more like once every 5+ years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Wikipedia functionally ended the market for encyclopedias. When I was a kid I would go to the library and read an encyclopedia just to see what random knowledge was in there. Traveling salesman would sell encyclopedias door to door and they were hugely expensive. Then Encarta came along and it was mind blowing you could have all that information on some CDs. Then Wikipedia killed all of them and did it for free.

When computers began to take hold in middle class homes, one of the biggest gold rushes was to be the encyclopedia of choice on the computer, since consumers saw encyclopedia software as an obvious (and maybe best!) use cases for a computer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Not too terribly long ago, clothing was super expensive. Like, make a dress from burlap or old feed sacks instead of buying something expensive. Some companies that sold feed and seed would print floral patterns on the sacks because they knew customers would turn the old sacks into clothing for their children.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

TVs. I once paid ~$300 for a 32" CRTV. Now I can get a 55" flat screen for under $100. It's weird.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Where can you get a 55" TV for under3r $100? The cheapest I see on Amazon is about $250

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I remember paying 5DM for a single blue LED. Which would be about 6 or 7 Euro adjusted for inflation.

I once paid a good months income for 16MB of RAM for my computer. Which put me into the category "the private home computer that has more RAM than all the companies' servers together".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I once paid several hundred DM for 16 KB of RAM for my ZX81. Now get off my lawn, damn kids!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I skirted the ZX81. I had a self-built computer and a TI99A before and a C64 after that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If it's okay to go waaaaay back: salt. It's always mind-blowing to me that people all over europe during the medieval age or even before that couldn't season anything with salt cause it often was as expensive as gold itself. If I imagine those huge amounts of salt if you wanna pickle some meat or fish. Today salt costs nearly nothing, nearly everybody can afford it and it's so basic that some even don't consider it "seasoning" at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I imagine those beside the ocean must have figured out what happens when boiling sea water. But I guess it was scaling it that was an issue?

Tona of English phrases and words have salty origins, like salary.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the scaling and transportation. If you wanted salt near the alps it was expensive as hell and mostly the salt came from mines, but that was a very difficult task.

Salary comes from salty? Like in a good way? I know an old "word" for salt in German is "weißes Gold" (white gold).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sal is latin (and also French to this day) for salt. Salary referred originally to the amount of salt you received as payment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

In other romantic languages too! like portuguese

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Aluminium once was way more expensive than gold. That's why the top of the obelisk in Washington is made from aluminum.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Along those same lines, I would say LCD monitors and TVs. Obviously they are not "cheap" as in pocket change, but they are an order of magnitude less than when the tech was introduced.

Also computer storage, e.g. SSD drives and SD cards. (Although maybe it's cheating to cite anything related to Moore's Law.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Storage is cheaper than it was before, but it's still quite expensive. 4TB SSDs are simply out of my budget, and even the higher tier of mechanical drives are really expensive

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

This is a proportional interpretation. The cost of data storage has absolutely plumetted since, say, 1990.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Digital calipers. I have a pair of high quality Mitutoyo calipers from a long time ago that cost $250 and some from eBay more recently that cost $15. Honestly the $15 ones are nowhere near as good, but definitely usable. I'm assuming some in say the $50 range could be just as good as my expensive ones.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lots of old cars. You can get 80s and 90s Rolls Royce for very cheap from private sellers. Some late 70s / early 80s Ferraris (like the 308) can be had for under $10k.

Mind you, they're still incredibly expensive to maintain and thus not terribly practical, but the cost to entry can be far lower than most would think.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Where do you look for stuff like that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Tbh I see quite a few on the regular using local Craigslist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Embedded computers.
It used to be that everything got a custom or at least customized circuit board, and fancy wifi or Bluetooth functionality, or smarter programmable features would make that really expensive.

Recently, the cost of embeddable system on a chip setups has dropped low enough that it's typically cheaper to put more computer power then you need in a device than to make something custom.

It's why everything has wi-fi and Bluetooth now. It's cheaper to use the prefab piece, and those all come with that build in, so you may as well advertise it.

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