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Florida and Utah have already removed fluoridation from public water systems. What if the rest of the country follows?

The long-term effects of banning fluoride from public drinking water across the country could cost families billions of dollars and result in millions of rotten teeth, a new analysis predicts. 

The study, published Friday in JAMA Health Forum, shows that if all 50 states stopped community water fluoridation programs, kids in the U.S. could expect to develop 25.4 million more cavities within the next five years. 

That’s the equivalent of a decayed tooth in 1 out of every 3 children.

The number of cavities would more than double in 10 years, to 53.8 million.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Grandma suffered bad teeth, always told us how lucky we were to have fluoridated water. She grew up on well water in Depression era West Virginia.

Not sure it makes any difference given that tooth paste carries plenty and our water systems don't carry enough to be an issue. It's a dumb fucking conspiracy theory either way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Dentists hate this one easy trick

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Water?

Like...out of a toilet?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Fish shit in it.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mean it is banned in Sweden (and so is every manipulation of the drinking water) and we are doing alright. I don't really care whenever you guys ban it or not, but the world won't end if you ban it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's a weird issue to me, because it's a really out-dated conspiracy theory.

most people these days have been marketed away from tap water and only drink bottled stuff, which doesn't fluoridate its water. and the people that are too poor to drink the bottled stuff probably have more to worry about when it comes to the pipes carrying the water.

fluoridation was started a long time ago, before a lot of people brushed their teeth with toothpaste. which is the next funny thing to me. why do we still need fluoride in water if people use toothpaste now, and why are people opposed to having it in their water when they consume it voluntarily multiple times every day?

you want to address water issues in america? start with fucking michigan. start with the lead pipes in low income areas. address the science that shows a link between lead poisoning and crime.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

See, those last points sound good, but that doesn’t make any money for Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

ironic, really, given how big those elephant tusks are. but then again, they don't embody the elephant any more. if anything, don junior taught us they just kill them for fun now

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Sweden also has significantly more robust social safety nets, higher income, homogenous population among many other things that allow this to work out. The US has entire regions where dental care basically isn’t a thing and I don’t think it’s ok to be harming our already very vulnerable populations and leaving kids with painful, expensive dental issues that could have been prevented that can contribute to things like poor eating, malnutrition, blood infections, distracting pain and discomfort

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Don't you have affordable dental care and time off from work? Not exactly apples and apelsiner.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

"kIdS nEeD sUgAr"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jokes on them: Kids stopped drinking tap water when it failed to be regulated enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even though it has that delicious lead sweetness?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

I hate just how the fluoride conspiracy theory is still a thing when it's been proven time and time again that fluoride is needed to maintain healthy dental hygine.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (19 children)

Fluoride is certainly needed for cavity protection. But. Fluoride was added to water before its mechanism of action was understood.

It was known that people who had naturally-present fluoride in their wells had fewer cavities, so they started emulating the fluoride concentration in city water. Which worked.

But.

We have since learned that fluoridated toothpaste and mouthwash provide more than sufficient quantities of fluoride, such that there is no longer a significant difference between people with fluoridated public water supplies and people with private wells lacking fluoride.

Fluoridated water isn't harmful. But it's not actually beneficial anymore.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

This was my understanding as well. Also, high fluoride concentrations can be deleterious, but those concentrations aren't found in our water supplies.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You underestimate poverty and child neglect a lot

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They know it's bullshit, they're just using it to sell the idea to morons.

The point is actually the increase in cavities. They want to make it even more expensive to be poor, with the ultimate goal of starving out anyone who isn't profitable.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They know it's bullshit, they're just using it to sell the idea to morons.

I agree, although I would say the misinformed and decieved because this is all caused by the top 1%.

The point is actually the increase in cavities. They want to make it even more expensive to be poor, with the ultimate goal of starving out anyone who isn't profitable.

Exactly, this is why I find the current misinformation/data enshitification landscape to be quite insidious as actions like this only widens the wealth gap with poorer people suffering more for the benefit of the rich.


Same situation but in the tech field:

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow! They managed to make our healthcare even worse.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

And we're only five months in.

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